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FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Who was it that has the meatal that fits that spot between coresupport » Today 10:41 AM |
The upper stone guard?
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Block ID » Yesterday 6:57 AM |
MS wrote:
Yep
Unless a 347 was in the works. Anybody need a bbq pit block?
Even then, you'd have to at least clean it so you could mag it to make sure that there are no cracks radiating from that section that got blown out, and honestly to sink money into a block you already know is damaged is just throwing money away IMO,.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Block ID » 8/23/2025 2:48 PM |
Definitely a truck block. The valley bosses could be drilled and taped to use factory roller cam hardware. Think that missing chunk of cylinder probably relegates it to the boat anchor pile though.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Garage air line kit question » 8/23/2025 2:43 PM |
RTM wrote:
TKOPerformance wrote:
rpm wrote:
Airline? You gonna build a plane? Check with RV6, he's built a few. 😆I helped my neighbor restore an AT6 Texan, and helped my uncle built an ultralight, which we flew out of the field between out houses. Airplanes are a lot of fun!
Well I did want to be a fighter pilot. Lol
Said everyone who ever went into the military to fly, both my grandfathers included
It didn't work out for either of them either. One trained pilots to fly the SBD; the other flew a scout observation airplane off a cruiser. He did get into a dogfight off Gela in '43 though. What's left of his aircraft is on the bottom of the Med. There's an Me109 near it though, so I guess he was only 4 kills away from being an ace.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Garage air line kit question » 8/22/2025 5:37 AM |
rpm wrote:
RTM wrote:
Nice shop MS.
I'll start on the airline project once I get the stripes and little things done on the mustang. Getting ahead of myself again.
Airline? You gonna build a plane? Check with RV6, he's built a few. 😆
I helped my neighbor restore an AT6 Texan, and helped my uncle built an ultralight, which we flew out of the field between out houses. Airplanes are a lot of fun!
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » How do my plugs look? » 8/21/2025 5:11 AM |
Mixture wise they look fine, but a high energy ignition can make that hard to verify. The electrodes look rounded (could just be an optical illusion caused by the pics), which probably just indicates they have some mileage on them. I'd throw a fresh set in it and rock on.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » i am back again - this time with more projects! :) » 8/20/2025 4:51 AM |
MS wrote:
Gaba wrote:
Well - I am at this point Now that I need the hose for drivers side routed and I’m needing some pics of what been done by others with a MS cable clutch and vintage air AC vents .
Squash the hose nearly flat and run it above the pedal support, right under the cowl floor. It will still flow just fine
That's where the hose runs in my '67 that has a factory AC system.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Garage air line kit question » 8/20/2025 4:50 AM |
MS wrote:
BobE wrote:
I would not use black pipe, or even galvanized pipe, as any moisture in the system will cause rust that can flake off and cause small particles to by-pass even if filters are installed at the end fittings and create problems with air tools and especially with paint spray guns.
I worked in electric power plants that used compressed air for the control systems and most used cooper or brass piping to avoid that problem. The ones that did use black pipe typically had issues with it.
Also, the pressure ratings on the three types of cooper tubing (K, L & M) are well above the 100psi that air systems typically use.We used black schedule 40 pipe in the airplane factory where I did Facilities design. Over 4 million square feet with that stuff running everywhere.
The shop we had for the family business used black iron pipe. It seemed to work just fine, but we didn't paint anything there. All the air was used for air tools. I will say that there was absolutely scale and junk in those lines though. One time I removed a quick coupler from one of the legs and a bunch of nastiness came out. I think black iron pipe was an old school way of dong air lines, and for the variety of reasons noted here it would not be my first choice if I was plumbing my shop from scratch today.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Garage air line kit question » 8/19/2025 8:59 AM |
rpm wrote:
When I was working at my ex's cylinder cart manufacturing company, we changed from individual 250 cf inert gas cylinders at the welding stations to large tanks with piping to the stations. I worked with a buddy from Air Liquide on the project, and used a plastic type of tube with compression fittings that has held up well for over twenty years. Nothing wrong with the right kind of plastic.
In fairness though, where did that plastic come from? If it came from Air Liquide its probably something exotic and expensive. I've done work for them in their Newport, DE plant for over a decade now. Their safety program was modeled after DuPont's. They take no chances with anything.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Garage air line kit question » 8/19/2025 5:09 AM |
Greg B wrote:
I just don't know if I trust that stuff.
When I did mine, I soldered in the thicker copper. Can't remember if that is type L or M since I don't do it every day but it has held up well and such. Although I suppose copper is through the roof in price anymore.
I've seen people use pcv! To me, that is crazy! I even worked at a plastic injection moulding facility once that had pcv. I wondered how that passed inspection. That is an explosion waiting to kill someone.
I guess what bothers me the most in a kit like that is the lines. I've seen a few times what happens when an air hose breaks. That is also a deadly weapon. But I guess if there are many points of securing the lines every so often it be ok.
I'd also say the generation older than me would probably say, copper lines? That's dangerous, Sonny! Shount be using anything other than iron pipe!
I hope you find a lot that works for you.
Almost certainly you used L copper. M copper is soft and was outlawed for home use decades ago, so though you might still be able to get it somewhere its not really readily available any more. It came in a roll. L copper is the most common, and its a hard copper. K is better than L, but also more expensive. Primarily K resists corrosion a bit better, which I would consider if I was plumbing a house that had well water, but for air lines I don't see the advantage. Nothing has corroded in my system (L copper) after a decade.
Copper pipe is perfectly safe for use in an air system. I got the idea from my neighbor who is a professional mechanic. His shop is plumbed with copper. His has been that way for almost 3 decades without issue. Copper pipe has a burst strength of nearly 4,000psi, and soldered joints are insanely strong (I've seen them destructive tested where the base metal failed before the solder joint).
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Garage air line kit question » 8/19/2025 5:02 AM |
I would not use any kind of plastic pipe. I've seen too much of it fail over the years with pressures much lower than what air lines will see. I've seen guys use CPVC and PVC over the years, but I decided against it. It become brittle over time, and I've seen it shatter. There are various kinds of polyethylene that may work fine, and last (PEX would be an option, though after dealing with the damage caused by polybutylene in my professional life for years I'm gun shy about PEX).
Black iron or galvanized pipe is an option, but its all threaded connections which are time consuming during construction, and a pain to splice into if you ever have to change anything.
I did mine with 1/2" copper pipe. Fittings just get sweated on, which I've done for years, so no problem there. If you have a connection you may need to take apart in the future you can just use Shark Bite fittings (too expensive to do the whole system that way IMO, though it would eliminate the need to sweat joints). Tying in another drop is also easy in the future, just cut out a section and install a tee. Now, the downside is that copper has become pricey again. Home Depot is listing 10' 1/2" L copper at $35/stick. It was $10/stick when I did my system. However, I'll also say that Home Depot is not the cheapest for plumbing stuff. A supply house will probably shave 20% off the cost of everything. They will also sell copper in 20' sticks if you have long straight runs and want to avoid couplings and the associated labor.
Whatever you use my advice would be not to use anything that uses proprietary fittings. The best part about my setup is that any fitting I need is available at any hardware, big box, or plumbing supply store, and are cheap. I also added isolation valves (ball valves) so I can change a hose connector, work on my sandblaster, etc. without having to shut down the compressor and drain the whole system.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Cousin found a Shelby Mustang » 8/16/2025 5:56 AM |
He probably wants one hundred billion dollars for it too...
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » 200ci Valve Cover Gasket (66 Mustang) » 8/16/2025 5:55 AM |
TimC wrote:
Thanks! Exactly what I was looking for! (well, one of the things I am looking for....)
Incidentally, the machinist I am using introduced me to Reflex exhaust gaskets. The manifold for this 6 cylinder has been off, previously, and not reinstalled properly. It was cracked and leaked from every exhaust port, and leaked long enough that all the port surfaces on the head were pitted. The machinist milled the exhaust flange surface down a bit but told me to get a Reflex gasket, which is thicker, and squishes. We will see.
Interesting, thanks for that link. They have gaskets for all kinds of vehicles I own, including my WRX. I've always used OEM gaskets for it and never had an issue, but with tariffs, etc. not sure what those OEM gaskets are going to cost if I had to buy them today. I'll always give a made in the USA product a go.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » 200ci Valve Cover Gasket (66 Mustang) » 8/15/2025 2:57 PM |
Cheers!
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » radiator and electric fan setup » 8/15/2025 5:37 AM |
Muzz 66 wrote:
TKOPerformance wrote:
The first thing to do IMO is verify that its actually getting hot. That's why I like knowing where the gauge sender is located. The temperature in the cooling system is not homogeneous. Ford likes to read the coolant temp in the intake manifold. If you read the temperature in the cylinder head or various places on the block, etc. you will get different temperatures.
Assuming its really getting to 230 a flush is indeed a good first step. If the bottom 1/4 or 1/3 of the radiator is packed full of junk your cooling capacity will be significantly reduced.My ‘92 LX 5.0 has a dash gauge that reads high all the time these days. It also reacts to voltage. Lights on, goes up, fan goes on, goes up, A/C or heater goes up. Even the turn signals will slightly move the needle sometimes. So I installed an Autometer temp gauge. It reads more correctly. The sender for the stock dash gauge is in the intake manifold and the sender for the Autometer is at the top of the thermostat housing. Just today I used some test leads to “switch” sending units to the gauges to see what would happen. The dash gauge needle went dead to the bottom and the Autometer needle maxxed out to the top. WTHeck? Auto electronics are a big mystery to me. Anyone help me out here? I’ll start another thread if need be. Thanks.
Probably better to start a dedicated thread, but I don't know that you can do what you did. In other words, the Autometer gauge is designed to read off the Autometer sender. The sender for the stock gauge may simply not be compatible with the Autometer gauge. Temperature senders work by varying resistance based on temperature. The scale of the resistance values the sender creates must be matched to the way the gauge is calibrated.
You can test the stock gauge and sender. First test the gauge, because I think that's where your problem is, based on your description of the gauge reading. Turn the k
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » radiator and electric fan setup » 8/14/2025 11:59 AM |
The first thing to do IMO is verify that its actually getting hot. That's why I like knowing where the gauge sender is located. The temperature in the cooling system is not homogeneous. Ford likes to read the coolant temp in the intake manifold. If you read the temperature in the cylinder head or various places on the block, etc. you will get different temperatures.
Assuming its really getting to 230 a flush is indeed a good first step. If the bottom 1/4 or 1/3 of the radiator is packed full of junk your cooling capacity will be significantly reduced.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » radiator and electric fan setup » 8/12/2025 10:04 AM |
Where is the temperature sender for the gauge reading 230 located?
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » radiator and electric fan setup » 8/12/2025 8:02 AM |
I'm assuming the in car temp gauge is aftermarket, because the factory gauge is really more of an idiot light. Where are you taking the reading with the IR thermometer? Is the upper radiator hose too hot to grab onto?
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » The 200 cui Engine and Mods » 8/12/2025 6:46 AM |
Toploader wrote:
TKO - Is this the kit?
Yes.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » The 200 cui Engine and Mods » 8/12/2025 5:43 AM |
Your best bet may be to just pick up the Clifford kit for the engine (carb, adapter, air cleaner, header, and associated linkages, etc.). They claim a 50% increase in torque and HP for less than $1,300. A mild cam and better ignition system will only complement that setup. Maybe increase the exhaust valve size too if you are already having the head redone. I'd call them and talk about it.
The cast, dual outlet exhaust manifolds I saw were made by www.aussiespeedshop.com
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » radiator and electric fan setup » 8/12/2025 5:19 AM |
How did you determine it was 230 degrees?
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » radiator and electric fan setup » 8/11/2025 11:22 AM |
Far more information is needed. What radiator is in it now (how many rows of tubes, size, etc.)? What kind of fan is on it now (clutch fan or not, how many blades, etc.)? Does it have a shroud on it? What thermostat is in it? AC or not? The question in my mind is why did it start to overheat if it didn't before?
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » The 200 cui Engine and Mods » 8/11/2025 10:45 AM |
Raymond_B wrote:
Everything I've read is that a T-5 will make a huge difference with the little 6 cylinders. I bet it would end up being cheaper too!
Consider the gearing of a Fox V8 T5, 3.35:1 first, 1.93 second, 1.26 third, 1.00 fourth, and 0.68 5th. Your overall first gear with a 3.23:1 rear gear would be 10.89:1, a great acceleration first gear for a low RPM engine without a lot of low end grunt. Then on the highway the OD drops the rear gear to where it acts like a 2.21, so you can cruise at 80 all day long and not be a nuisance to modern traffic. Meanwhile you've got 4 reasonably close ratio forward speeds making it more enjoyable to run around town with, because it stays in the powerband better. Definitely an improvement over a non OD 3 speed.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » The 200 cui Engine and Mods » 8/11/2025 10:40 AM |
Greg B wrote:
Carb wise, there used to be an adapter to put a Webber two barrel on. I saw one of them one time at a junkyard across from the racetrack in Sauget, Illinois. Speedway. I passed on it. But I get they are still out there to be found. Also,makes a big difference is the centre exhaust ports are siameesd, a company, Clifford used to make an insert that separates them. THAT one I did buy and put on the Springtime yellow 66 spring I had. Made a noticeable difference.
All that said, the coolest thing I did was my dad was into Ford Falcons. 6cyl Falcons. We put an early 170 head on a 200 out of necessity, (meaning my dad had to work Monday). And WOW! We must have inadvertently bumped up the compresssion because it suddenly was a beast! And I'm not kidding. It started smoking badly about a month or so later, and then we rebuilt it. I always looked at that as my first lesson in "performance" . But I never did the research to see what we inadvertently did.
So, I'm going to say yeah, a six can be made to be quite sporty.
Some 170s had a 48cc chamber, wheres 200s had a 51-62c chamber depending on the year. Another possibility it why did you swap the head? If the old one was cracked, or had a burned valve or valves you likely just restored proper compression. Even if it was just a blown HG it would act the same way.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » The 200 cui Engine and Mods » 8/11/2025 8:38 AM |
That rear gear is about max for a non OD trans. The problem is that you'll want a 3.73-4.10 to make power higher in the RPM range.
This is one of those cases where the car as a system needs to work, and to get there its going to cost a lot more than you probably want to spend.
At some point durability may also be an issue. Does the car have that spindly 7" rearend? An 8" would be fine, but if its got the same rear as a common I6 Mustang I'd be real careful with it, even on street tires.
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