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FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Boss 302 video » Yesterday 5:52 AM |
RTM wrote:
The value can vary greatly depending on if it's a service block or not. The 69 parts bring more money than the 70's parts. If it has all the small stuff like the carb and so on then the price really goes up.
Most any block can be made serviceable; its just a question of what you have to do to get it there. If there isn't enough bore left you can sleeve the cylinders. If its cracked it can be repaired through welding or pinning. With a block that rare, and potentially valuable, guys are willing to do all kinds of stuff they'd never even consider for a typical small block.
Definitely though the money is in the accessories. A lot of that stuff got tossed when the car came home, so its rare and guys need it for a correct restoration.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » I wish ... » Yesterday 5:47 AM |
And yet, give it 10 years and it will be so full of stuff you're tripping over it trying to change your oil...
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Anybody using a oil separator in their Mustang? » Yesterday 5:46 AM |
For the way these cars are used I don't see the benefit, and as Nos681 said: it would just add complexity.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Boss 302 video » 4/01/2025 6:12 AM |
The father of a kid I went to high school with had one. I also always liked the BOSS302s. My Dad had one in a speed boat years ago. He used to joke you could stick your arm down the intake ports.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Possible 351C Boss engine find » 4/01/2025 6:09 AM |
If the price is right, the price is right. If the price is wrong, the price is wrong. I've always tried to live by the idea that the wrong part for the right price is still the wrong part, and vice versa. Its definitely an interesting piece of nostalgia. I just find it odd that if he wasn't going to use the engine why did he just let it sit for all these years? I would have turned around and sold it immediately to help fund the Jag project. Not trying to poo poo the deal, I just know how these things go sometimes. We get so caught up in the quest that sometimes we need a voice of reason to get our brain reengaged when our heart has taken over. I'm definitely curious what you find out regardless of whether or not you decide to try and buy it or not. It shows that at the very least cool stuff is still out there waiting to be found.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Possible 351C Boss engine find » 3/31/2025 4:46 AM |
I would look at it as needing a complete rebuild, and frankly I'd use the bore scope just to try and determine IF that's even a possibility without major machining costs. If there's rust in the bores, or its locked up I'd walk. Ultimately most any block is salvageable, but the cost of having to sleeve cylinders, etc. makes the proposition less and less attractive. I'm trying to remember the reason claimed for the engine being out of a car and in storage, but think about it for a minute. If you had a 500HP world beater of an engine would it be sitting in a corner covered with junk and rat turds if it still ran right? Yeah, me neither. I'm reminded of those famous words we've all probably heard when looking at an old car that's been sitting for Lord knows how long: ran when parked. Let's be honest; that's a lie in terms. If it ran WHY was it parked? No one parks a running, driving vehicle and just lets it sit there forever.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Possible 351C Boss engine find » 3/30/2025 12:08 PM |
RTM wrote:
TKOPerformance wrote:
I think there are probably far cheaper options than either of those engines that make just as much power and are easier to install. If cost were no object I'd build the 390 I have into a 445 stroker with aluminum heads an 8 stack EFI. I just can't justify it though when a stroker 5.0 will make just about the same power for less than half the cost.
I agree but like it was mentioned before, there's that cool factor. I've never been an FE fan but it recent years I've grown to appreciate them and even follow a facebook fe group. I've only ever put one fe together and it was a cross bolt block. That's all I remember about it. I was very young and didn't know a lot about the older ford performance stuff. The guy I worked for then had 19 Shelby mustangs. I traveled to a lot of swap meets with him too. I learned a lot at his shop.
That's a really cool life experience you got to have. Barry Rabotnick, who a lot of folks regard as THE FE guru who's still alive made a good point about the FE in one of his books. He said that the reason they fell out of favor was that Ford never really made street performance versions of them in any real numbers, and that because the really good ones were designed for racing Ford was the one making all the hop up parts. This led to an aftermarket never really developing for them. By the time Ford stopped using the FE in the mid '70s all the good performance stuff was mostly used up, or expensive, so guys moved on to 385 series engines, or just stuck with hopping up traditional small blocks. This led the FE to fade into a semi-obscurity, where everyone knew what the storied FEs had done, but no one really considered them for much beyond a restoration in a car which already had one. Even then those cars were typically worth considerably more than a small block equipped car, so modifying them was seen as heresy. Today you can build an FE any way you want and any part you'd nee
…FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Possible 351C Boss engine find » 3/30/2025 6:53 AM |
I think there are probably far cheaper options than either of those engines that make just as much power and are easier to install. If cost were no object I'd build the 390 I have into a 445 stroker with aluminum heads an 8 stack EFI. I just can't justify it though when a stroker 5.0 will make just about the same power for less than half the cost.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Where was it that was a good place to get the stock HO roller cam » 3/30/2025 6:48 AM |
Given the wider LSA of the cam you already have I don't know that you would get a smoother idle with an E cam. Stock HO maybe. It seems like the cam you have was ground to try and have a smooth idle. I think I'd go back through the tuning and make sure everything is set optimally. I'd also make sure there are no vacuum leaks.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » American Powertrain Hydraulic Clutch for Early Mustangs » 3/30/2025 6:44 AM |
I'll agree with that. Given the choice I'll take a good old mechanical linkage or cable over anything hydraulic. Much better pedal feel.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » 351 Roller block » 3/29/2025 6:40 AM |
I have no use for one at the moment, but I wouldn't pass one up for the right price. Those blocks are only ever going to be worth more money than they are now. A block doesn't take up much space either (I've still got a 390 block and heads under my one workbench that in truth I kind of forgot about until thinking about where I could store a roller 351 block). I think $400 would be my max investment though. Now, if he's only willing to sell the whole deal you can probably sell the rest of the parts off and recoup a lot of your outlay. It just may take some time. '97 would have an E4OD trans I think. That's probably worth a couple hundred if its a good working low mileage trans.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Where was it that was a good place to get the stock HO roller cam » 3/29/2025 6:33 AM |
Either cam will be a step backwards. I'm trying to figure out what you're trying to do. The E cam is a .498/.498 lift cam with 220/220 duration (at 0.050) on a 110 degree LSA. Basically the E cam was a step up from the stock HO cam where you didn't have to worry about running a valve into a piston, or issues with the EFI. A single pattern cam for a stock E7TE head was kind of a joke. The port flow ratio in them was not matched to where a single pattern cam was the best choice. I think Ford ground them single pattern because it was cheaper. Basically the E cam was a cheap performance roller cam that gave you a decent bump in power over stock (the B cam was kind of an in between step that most guys just walked right past). Now, if you ported the heads, or went to an aftermarket head a single pattern cam can actually be the optimum choice, BUT if spending $1,500 or more on a head swap there are better cam choices only costing maybe another $100. If your cam was chosen in consultation with Howards I would tend to think it was better matched to your engine than an off the shelf Ford Racing cam.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Where was it that was a good place to get the stock HO roller cam » 3/28/2025 5:56 AM |
My understanding is they are all the same, so long as the engine was an HO. In '85 I believe the HO was only available with a 5 speed and it was a 4 barrel engine. Truthfully, by '85 they knew the writing was on the wall and they were going to EFI the next year (California may have actually gotten EFI in '85). Even the Cobras still used the same cam; they just put 1.72:1 roller rockers on them to make the cam act a little bigger.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Fan clutches » 3/28/2025 5:52 AM |
Disadvantages? Not sure I can think of any. I suppose in theory its one more thing that can fail, but I don't think I've ever actually seen one fail.
Advantages would be freeing up otherwise wasted HP, AND also better mileage. Temperature control should also be better (faster warm ups and better maintenance of operating temperature).
I think the only vehicles I still have them on are my F250s. I've never heard the one in my 5.4 truck. The one in the Diesel sounds like a tractor trailer is under the hood when it comes on. Of course, if it comes on things have gone horribly wrong. I only ever heard it run when I was drastically low on coolant due to a blown head gasket. If everything is right that truck and its 7 gallons of coolant don't seem to need the fan, even while towing (unless maybe I hooked like a D8 dozer to it or something absurd).
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » When cleaning up under hood wiring what covering do you..... » 3/28/2025 5:45 AM |
I've used the 3M stuff over the years and its good quality.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Finally got my 22 gallon tank installed thanks to my son Dillan helpin » 3/28/2025 5:44 AM |
wsinsle wrote:
I helped carry an electric bed a few days ago and my arms were sore for 2 days.
How did you adjust the filler neck?
By the way, what does it cost to rent your son?
Rentals are expensive. Its why I ordered two of my own 13 and 7 years ago My oldest actually did help me with the bumper, which was nice.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Finally got my 22 gallon tank installed thanks to my son Dillan helpin » 3/27/2025 6:18 AM |
Glad you got it done. Being in pain stinks. The sacrifices we make, eh? I finally got he ARB bumper on the front of our FJ this past weekend, and did something to my right shoulder I'm still paying for today. Fortunately I only have to hang a bunch of drywall today...
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » When cleaning up under hood wiring what covering do you..... » 3/26/2025 6:00 AM |
I think corrugated plastic split loom is completely out of place on cars of this vintage. It wasn't used by OEMs until the '80s.
I prefer black friction tape. It looks period correct.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » So I opened a can of worms... » 3/20/2025 4:50 AM |
Yeah, sounds like par for the course. But it'll be that much better when all that other stuff is also fixed!
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Class Auto Air customer service top notch » 3/19/2025 4:27 PM |
That's good to hear. They always responded quickly when I sent them emails, and with the right information. Sounds like they are still a top notch company.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Started wet sanding » 3/17/2025 5:40 AM |
Looking really good!
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Has anyone put a vaccum cannister on their car or maybe a vaccum pump » 3/16/2025 1:35 PM |
BILLY WALTON from GEORGIA wrote:
Nos681 wrote:
BILLY WALTON from GEORGIA wrote:
The bigger cam seems to be causing my power brakes not to work slowing down at redlights and such.
Aren’t you supposed to stop at red lights? 😜Yes thats why I have the issues I have now the 18 wheeler hit me in my other car at red light.
Yeah, it stinks that our brake pedal doesn't control the other guys vehicle. Over the summer my wife was second from the front of a 5 car line at a red light and someone drilled the last car in line at about 35MPH causing an accordion situation. First car hit was totaled. Our FJ has some scratches on the rear bumper (thanks to the protection afforded by the hitch), and the front bumper got messed up. I used the insurance money to buy a set of ARB bumpers. If it happened again all the damage would be other peoples' problems.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Brake Pressure Differential Valve or is it a Proportioning valve » 3/15/2025 6:28 AM |
This may sound a little odd, but did you bleed the front brakes first? The reason I ask is that I had an issue years ago where I did that on a completely new system (no fluid in the lines to speak of), and it did exactly what you are describing. It was as if the front system was preventing a decent stroke to move fluid through the rear bowl. IIRC I fixed it by putting clear vinyl tube on all the bleeders and putting the ends into jars with a little brake fluid in the bottom (to prevent sucking air back through). I then pumped the pedal like 10 times with all the bleeders open, refilled the fluid, and repeated that another 2 or 3 times. Then I was able to close all but the farthest bleeder (right rear), and follow a proper bleeding rotation (right rear, left rear, right front, left front) after which everything worked just fine.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Has anyone put a vaccum cannister on their car or maybe a vaccum pump » 3/15/2025 6:21 AM |
That's why its running rich. When you adjust the idle speed you need to go back through setting the idle mixture again.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » $42k 65 Coupe - Comments » 3/14/2025 5:21 AM |
Nice, well executed car. I couldn't see that price for a coupe though. Maybe $30k. Its tasteful, but that's also a loaded die, because its to the builder's taste. For me, there's too much shiny stuff in the engine bay. I'm not a fan of the black wheels; I'd prefer an as cast aluminum finish. Windows are tinted too dark as well.
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