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FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » I hate those meeses to pieces! » Today 8:18 AM |
Yep, I found one under the turbo of my Diesel truck. Also sat outside, but also driven daily. That turbo probably hit 1,500 degrees or more in operation. It sits in the valley though, so I guess it was sheltered from any wind and there might have been some residual heat if they waited just the right amount of time.
Worst I ever heard was years ago a buddy of kine bought a 350 Chevy from a guy we both know who is a bit of a hoarder, but had a ton a good quality used parts. He installed the engine in a truck he had, primed it, fired it up and everything seemed fine. A week later it lost oil pressure and died a horrible death. He pulled the engine back out and when he dropped the pan the oil pump pickup screen was packed solid with dead mice and nest material saturated in oil. The engine has sat without oil in it and without the distributor. It seems they went all Rats of NIMH on it and built a metropolis inside the oil pan. They had no place to escape when a distributor was installed and the engine filled with oil. Yeesh!
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Anyone running pedstal mount roller rockers? » 4/07/2025 7:33 AM |
Great minds think alike. I did the same thing to the SVE covers I'm running on the 331 going into my '89 GT. Safety wire and Locktite.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Anyone running pedstal mount roller rockers? » 4/06/2025 5:55 AM |
BILLY WALTON from GEORGIA wrote:
TKOPerformance wrote:
BILLY WALTON from GEORGIA wrote:
were they pedestal mounted ....were the factory ones shorter?
Pedestal mounted using the same weak 5/16" Allen head bolts. Ford didn't want to spend anything on the Cobras, so they used as many stock GT parts as they possibly could. The director to SVT, John Coletti, wanted the big brakes on the Cobras and Ford wouldn't give him the money to do it. He literally paid for it out of his own pocket. Imagine the Cobras without the big brakes! Proof positive that every auto executive isn't a bean counter. Some are indeed real car guys.
Anyway, as to whether or not the '84 valve covers will work I can't say. I know the cast aluminum ones used on the later GTs and Cobras will work. If you get stuck and need a set I'm pretty sure I have two sets up in the shop. If you can take measurements on the valve covers you have from the gasket mounting surface to the top of the cover I can measure a set I know will fit and we can see if the ones you have should work or not.
do your covers have pcv?
No, they don't, because on the EFI 5.0s Ford put the PVC in the back of the lower intake. The oil fill cao is also on a long tube coming up off the cover. On a set of covers with PVC you will likely have clearance issues with the PCV baffle(s). Good call Mike.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Anyone running pedstal mount roller rockers? » 4/06/2025 5:52 AM |
RTM wrote:
I'm wondering if there's a difference between the factory ford rocker arms versus the aftermarket ones? It's been years since I installed a set of ford roller rocker arms but I can't help but think the overall profile is different than the aftermarket ones.
The Ford ones are exactly the same as Crane Energizer (aluminum bodied) roller rockers, as they were made by Crane for Ford. The only difference is the Ford ones have the Ford part number stamped into them and the generic Crane ones do not. Deviate beyond Crane and there's no guarantee they will fit under stock cast HO valve covers.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Got a lead on a potential collection going up for sale » 4/05/2025 5:16 PM |
See, everyone talks so negatively about hoarders. They never mention the positive side where a bunch of previously unknown old cars and parts appear out of thin air!
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Started wet sanding » 4/05/2025 5:14 PM |
Taking your time seems to be paying dividends. She looks great!
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Anybody using a oil separator in their Mustang? » 4/05/2025 12:44 PM |
rpm wrote:
How did you go from more than one to a bunch?
I took the overall quiet from other members to mean they knew we were talking about them, but that they were ashamed to own it, and made an intuitive leap.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Hard start » 4/05/2025 12:41 PM |
The fuel is evaporating out of the bowl via the vent. A squirt bottle with some gas down the vent hole also works if its been sitting for a white. Electric pumps are fine, but IMO there's no need to run an electric AND a mechanical pump. You are adding complexity to the system. Alternatively just switch to an electric pump. I never have an issue firing up my tractor after it sits for 5-6 months because its has an electric pump. Cycle the key once and then fire her up.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Anyone running pedstal mount roller rockers? » 4/05/2025 4:36 AM |
BILLY WALTON from GEORGIA wrote:
TKOPerformance wrote:
'93-'95 Cobras all had them from the factory with GT40 heads and stock 5.0 valve covers. They were 1.72:1 ratio made by Crane as I recall, though they had a Ford part number stamped into them.
were they pedestal mounted ....were the factory ones shorter?
Pedestal mounted using the same weak 5/16" Allen head bolts. Ford didn't want to spend anything on the Cobras, so they used as many stock GT parts as they possibly could. The director to SVT, John Coletti, wanted the big brakes on the Cobras and Ford wouldn't give him the money to do it. He literally paid for it out of his own pocket. Imagine the Cobras without the big brakes! Proof positive that every auto executive isn't a bean counter. Some are indeed real car guys.
Anyway, as to whether or not the '84 valve covers will work I can't say. I know the cast aluminum ones used on the later GTs and Cobras will work. If you get stuck and need a set I'm pretty sure I have two sets up in the shop. If you can take measurements on the valve covers you have from the gasket mounting surface to the top of the cover I can measure a set I know will fit and we can see if the ones you have should work or not.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Anybody using a oil separator in their Mustang? » 4/05/2025 4:29 AM |
rpm wrote:
TKOPerformance wrote:
rpm wrote:
Forced induction cars ain't the only ones with blowby.Yes, every engine has some amount of blowby, but I've never seen it become an issue in a NA engine.
Come to a Bash, you'll see more than one.
Bunch of worn out engines with blowby? Not really selling me on the idea rpm.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Anyone running pedstal mount roller rockers? » 4/04/2025 2:24 PM |
'93-'95 Cobras all had them from the factory with GT40 heads and stock 5.0 valve covers. They were 1.72:1 ratio made by Crane as I recall, though they had a Ford part number stamped into them.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Anybody using a oil separator in their Mustang? » 4/04/2025 2:23 PM |
rpm wrote:
TKOPerformance wrote:
Oh, commonly called a "catch can" in turbo circles. IMO without forced induction these are not necessary.
Forced induction cars ain't the only ones with blowby.
If you've got enough blow by in an NA engine to need a catch can either something is wrong or the engine needs a vacuum pump to seal the rings properly. Yes, every engine has some amount of blowby, but I've never seen it become an issue in a NA engine. In forced induction engines its always an issue. Baffles, etc. are designed to work with gravity on your side. When you introduce pressure into the equation it easily overwhelms measures. The problem I've found is that the pressure doesn't build in a linear fashion with a turbo, its slow until the turbo spools, and then it spikes. NA engines are a lot more linear.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Anybody using a oil separator in their Mustang? » 4/04/2025 5:35 AM |
Oh, commonly called a "catch can" in turbo circles. IMO without forced induction these are not necessary.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Boss 302 video » 4/03/2025 5:52 AM |
RTM wrote:
The value can vary greatly depending on if it's a service block or not. The 69 parts bring more money than the 70's parts. If it has all the small stuff like the carb and so on then the price really goes up.
Most any block can be made serviceable; its just a question of what you have to do to get it there. If there isn't enough bore left you can sleeve the cylinders. If its cracked it can be repaired through welding or pinning. With a block that rare, and potentially valuable, guys are willing to do all kinds of stuff they'd never even consider for a typical small block.
Definitely though the money is in the accessories. A lot of that stuff got tossed when the car came home, so its rare and guys need it for a correct restoration.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » I wish ... » 4/03/2025 5:47 AM |
And yet, give it 10 years and it will be so full of stuff you're tripping over it trying to change your oil...
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Anybody using a oil separator in their Mustang? » 4/03/2025 5:46 AM |
For the way these cars are used I don't see the benefit, and as Nos681 said: it would just add complexity.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Boss 302 video » 4/01/2025 6:12 AM |
The father of a kid I went to high school with had one. I also always liked the BOSS302s. My Dad had one in a speed boat years ago. He used to joke you could stick your arm down the intake ports.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Possible 351C Boss engine find » 4/01/2025 6:09 AM |
If the price is right, the price is right. If the price is wrong, the price is wrong. I've always tried to live by the idea that the wrong part for the right price is still the wrong part, and vice versa. Its definitely an interesting piece of nostalgia. I just find it odd that if he wasn't going to use the engine why did he just let it sit for all these years? I would have turned around and sold it immediately to help fund the Jag project. Not trying to poo poo the deal, I just know how these things go sometimes. We get so caught up in the quest that sometimes we need a voice of reason to get our brain reengaged when our heart has taken over. I'm definitely curious what you find out regardless of whether or not you decide to try and buy it or not. It shows that at the very least cool stuff is still out there waiting to be found.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Possible 351C Boss engine find » 3/31/2025 4:46 AM |
I would look at it as needing a complete rebuild, and frankly I'd use the bore scope just to try and determine IF that's even a possibility without major machining costs. If there's rust in the bores, or its locked up I'd walk. Ultimately most any block is salvageable, but the cost of having to sleeve cylinders, etc. makes the proposition less and less attractive. I'm trying to remember the reason claimed for the engine being out of a car and in storage, but think about it for a minute. If you had a 500HP world beater of an engine would it be sitting in a corner covered with junk and rat turds if it still ran right? Yeah, me neither. I'm reminded of those famous words we've all probably heard when looking at an old car that's been sitting for Lord knows how long: ran when parked. Let's be honest; that's a lie in terms. If it ran WHY was it parked? No one parks a running, driving vehicle and just lets it sit there forever.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Possible 351C Boss engine find » 3/30/2025 12:08 PM |
RTM wrote:
TKOPerformance wrote:
I think there are probably far cheaper options than either of those engines that make just as much power and are easier to install. If cost were no object I'd build the 390 I have into a 445 stroker with aluminum heads an 8 stack EFI. I just can't justify it though when a stroker 5.0 will make just about the same power for less than half the cost.
I agree but like it was mentioned before, there's that cool factor. I've never been an FE fan but it recent years I've grown to appreciate them and even follow a facebook fe group. I've only ever put one fe together and it was a cross bolt block. That's all I remember about it. I was very young and didn't know a lot about the older ford performance stuff. The guy I worked for then had 19 Shelby mustangs. I traveled to a lot of swap meets with him too. I learned a lot at his shop.
That's a really cool life experience you got to have. Barry Rabotnick, who a lot of folks regard as THE FE guru who's still alive made a good point about the FE in one of his books. He said that the reason they fell out of favor was that Ford never really made street performance versions of them in any real numbers, and that because the really good ones were designed for racing Ford was the one making all the hop up parts. This led to an aftermarket never really developing for them. By the time Ford stopped using the FE in the mid '70s all the good performance stuff was mostly used up, or expensive, so guys moved on to 385 series engines, or just stuck with hopping up traditional small blocks. This led the FE to fade into a semi-obscurity, where everyone knew what the storied FEs had done, but no one really considered them for much beyond a restoration in a car which already had one. Even then those cars were typically worth considerably more than a small block equipped car, so modifying them was seen as heresy. Today you can build an FE any way you want and any part you'd nee
…FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Possible 351C Boss engine find » 3/30/2025 6:53 AM |
I think there are probably far cheaper options than either of those engines that make just as much power and are easier to install. If cost were no object I'd build the 390 I have into a 445 stroker with aluminum heads an 8 stack EFI. I just can't justify it though when a stroker 5.0 will make just about the same power for less than half the cost.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Where was it that was a good place to get the stock HO roller cam » 3/30/2025 6:48 AM |
Given the wider LSA of the cam you already have I don't know that you would get a smoother idle with an E cam. Stock HO maybe. It seems like the cam you have was ground to try and have a smooth idle. I think I'd go back through the tuning and make sure everything is set optimally. I'd also make sure there are no vacuum leaks.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » American Powertrain Hydraulic Clutch for Early Mustangs » 3/30/2025 6:44 AM |
I'll agree with that. Given the choice I'll take a good old mechanical linkage or cable over anything hydraulic. Much better pedal feel.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » 351 Roller block » 3/29/2025 6:40 AM |
I have no use for one at the moment, but I wouldn't pass one up for the right price. Those blocks are only ever going to be worth more money than they are now. A block doesn't take up much space either (I've still got a 390 block and heads under my one workbench that in truth I kind of forgot about until thinking about where I could store a roller 351 block). I think $400 would be my max investment though. Now, if he's only willing to sell the whole deal you can probably sell the rest of the parts off and recoup a lot of your outlay. It just may take some time. '97 would have an E4OD trans I think. That's probably worth a couple hundred if its a good working low mileage trans.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Where was it that was a good place to get the stock HO roller cam » 3/29/2025 6:33 AM |
Either cam will be a step backwards. I'm trying to figure out what you're trying to do. The E cam is a .498/.498 lift cam with 220/220 duration (at 0.050) on a 110 degree LSA. Basically the E cam was a step up from the stock HO cam where you didn't have to worry about running a valve into a piston, or issues with the EFI. A single pattern cam for a stock E7TE head was kind of a joke. The port flow ratio in them was not matched to where a single pattern cam was the best choice. I think Ford ground them single pattern because it was cheaper. Basically the E cam was a cheap performance roller cam that gave you a decent bump in power over stock (the B cam was kind of an in between step that most guys just walked right past). Now, if you ported the heads, or went to an aftermarket head a single pattern cam can actually be the optimum choice, BUT if spending $1,500 or more on a head swap there are better cam choices only costing maybe another $100. If your cam was chosen in consultation with Howards I would tend to think it was better matched to your engine than an off the shelf Ford Racing cam.
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