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FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » stumped - brakes » Yesterday 6:17 AM

The only time I ever heard of a residual pressure valve on a 4 wheel drum brake vehicle was decades ago when they mounted the master cylinder below the floor.  My understanding was that this was done to prevent exactly the condition MS described on the '32 Ford he fixed. 

I've heard of RPVs being built into some master cylinders, but can't say whether or not that's just an urban legend or not.

Another thing worth noting is that self adjusters are side specific.  Typically I've seen them stamped with an R or an L, but you never know so its always a good idea to verify function by manually operating the arm and making sure the adjuster turns.  If reusing adjusters I will usually take them apart and put some grease or anti seize on the threads to ensure they don't get stuck over time.  Probably not as much a concern on cars, but on trucks and 4x4s used off road the brakes often get submerged in water or mud, so its become a habit.

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » There and back again (brakes) » 12/29/2024 8:15 AM

All things made in China aren't equal.  Quality is typically the product of the company having them made, so I would feel more confident with the Raybestos one.  I would also see about returning the one that failed.  Locally I've never had an issue with a NAPA sourced master cylinder, though you will pay a bit of a premium for it.  You may also have a Berodin near you.  My neighbor uses their parts a lot, because they have a labor warranty as well.  If the part fails prematurely they cover a set amount of time to replace the part with a new one provided under warranty.  As a professional mechanic that's a better deal for him.  To my mind it also means they have skin in the game and more confidence in the parts they sell. 

This type of stuff definitely sucks and its why in the past 10 years I've gravitated to buying mostly OEM parts when I can.  As a rule I do use Raybestos and Bendix brake parts, Mevotech chassis parts, and Randy's gearsets.  I consider those manufacturers to be as good if not better than OEM quality. 
 

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Axle Bearing for 9" Rear (Large Bearing) » 12/29/2024 8:02 AM

When it comes to bearings I wouldn't specify only US made.  Over the years I've rebuilt dozens of transmissions, rears, and t-cases and never had an issue using Timken (US), Koyo (Japan), or SKF (Sweden).  Timken has often been considered the gold standard, but Ford and Borg/Warner both used Koyo as OEM during the '80s and '90s (not sure what they use now).  Schaeffler Group also now owns FAG, INA, and Barden and all are now made in South Carolina.  I'm trying to recall any trouble I ever had with a roller or ball bearing in the past 30+ years and honestly I'm drawing a blank.  I did have a Chinese pinion seal fail after about a week (out of a Randy's master overhaul kit no less), but can't recall a bearing failure of setup issue I could trace to bearings.  Those tend to be memorable, so I'd have to say I simply haven't had an issue. 

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Gas Monkey found a very rare Boss 9 » 12/27/2024 7:30 AM

Prices are a sticky subject.  Do they seem inflated?  Sure, but then given how long we've all been in the hobby looking at a rare car like a Boss or Shelby, or even a run of the mill offering like a V8 fastback; we all remember what they used to cost back in the day.  I bought my '67 fastback for $3,900 in about 1992.  It was a running (kinda), driving (mostly) car that looked decent from 50'.  My total investment in the car by '96 was around $13,500, and I remember thinking I'd never get my money back out of it if I had to sell it (not that I thought I ever would and thus far have been proven right).  Fast forward to 2024 and the car I initially bought would probably sell for closer to $20,000, and in the condition it was in in '96 would be more like $50,000.  BUT, we also have to look at what's happened in the world in that time.  I remember $20 filling the tank with high test and having change left over.  I remember a date consisting of diner and a movie running $30.  That tank of gas now costs more like $55, and diner and a movie is more like $70.  Anyone own a house they bought 20-30 years ago that isn't worth at least twice what you paid for it?  Point being, inflation is part of the rise in prices.

Another thing to consider is that classic cars trade like all commodities.  Most economists would tell you that other commodities like say gold or silver are worth today what they were worth 2,000 years ago.  The amount of effort and cost to extract those metals is the same as it was in Roman times; the difference is that everything costs more now that it did then because of inflation.  Sure, the markets do experience upward and downward trends depending on other market conditions (people tend to flock to commodities in inflationary times for example, raising prices).  But overall things with intrinsic value tend to just adjust with inflation, and classic cars aren't much different.

Then you have to factor in what happened when the largest generat

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Sometimes...black and white pics are THE BEST..... » 12/25/2024 3:21 PM

Gotta love it.  Looks like a coiled spring getting ready to unload. 

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » stumped - brakes » 12/24/2024 7:58 AM

Glad it worked out and was a relatively simple fix.  Merry Christmas to all!

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Gas Monkey found a very rare Boss 9 » 12/23/2024 6:12 AM

Ron68 wrote:

6sally6 wrote:

I'm kinda that way about watching submarine flicks.
Whether I say it out loud or just think it...."That ain't how its done...that is sooo phoney...eye-roll...eye-roll....what made-up cra-/poop...man! that's just stupid."
So I don't watch them (usually)
Yeah....'made-up-drama'...and most folks seem to buy-it (or else nobody would watch them)
I DID like the car series Cut-Chop-and Rebuild though
6sal6

I get that watching any aviation related movies - it is as if the writers know absolutely nothing about aircraft or how they work - which is very true.
 

I do this almost any time they do anything with cars, firearms, or martial arts too.  If you shoot someone and they fly back 15 feet you would fly back 15 feet too due to basic physics.  There is also a very specific place where you are guaranteed an instant kill, even with a head shot.  Anyone who's ever hunted would tell you a deer shot through the heart still can run for 100 yards or more.  They don't drop dead instantly.  You could live days after being gut shot, and according to two ER doctors I know they almost never stitch a gunshot wound closed (its a puncture wound and could trap an infection inside leading to sepsis). 

People aren't bags of blood either.  Ever cut yourself and have blood fly everywhere?  Yeah, me neither.  I've even seen guys get cut with saw blades and do serious damage and it still doesn't happen like that. 

If it were as easy as its made out to be in the movies to break someone's neck none of us would have survived childhood. 

And don't get me started on the cars.  The lingo that goes along with it most of the time is flawed somewhere, and the stunts and now the CGI they use is absurd. 

There's actually a whole series of YouTube videos with actual snipers, fighters, etc. who rate how accurate movies are.  The truly realistic ones are few and far between. 
 

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Gas Monkey found a very rare Boss 9 » 12/23/2024 5:58 AM

6sally6 wrote:

I'm kinda that way about watching submarine flicks.
Whether I say it out loud or just think it...."That ain't how its done...that is sooo phoney...eye-roll...eye-roll....what made-up cra-/poop...man! that's just stupid."
So I don't watch them (usually)
Yeah....'made-up-drama'...and most folks seem to buy-it (or else nobody would watch them)
I DID like the car series Cut-Chop-and Rebuild though
6sal6

This is actually why I love watching those movies with my father-in-law.  I get why the film makers do stuff that isn't the way it would really be done, because often it greatly increases dramatic effect.  I mean, that scene in The Hunt for Red October where the Dallas does the emergency blow was awesome, but dad snickered at it and I asked why and he said it wouldn't make sense to do that when there was nothing wrong with the boat.  Surfacing that way is dangerous and could cause more problems than it solved. 
 

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Gas Monkey found a very rare Boss 9 » 12/22/2024 2:03 PM

Yeah, that aspect of it hasn't changed since they first put This Old House on TV.  I remember watching that with my dad and him laughing whenever they talked about "the budget".  He had mad respect for Norm though, and the show we really liked twas The New Yankee Workshop.  That was basically entirely informative, and you could get the plans for anything they built if you wanted to duplicate it at home.  Of course, none of us have Norm's shop, which was just awesome, or in truth probably Norm's skill, though I've built some nice stuff over the years and know a few guys who are hobbyists that churn out some amazing stuff. 

The Woodright shop was another great one.  He used all old tools.  That was really cool to see how it was done before industrialization. 

Maybe public access should do some car shows.  Or maybe the problem is just that the majority of shows dealing with muscle cars are just too close to what we all own.  I will say that Chasing Classic Cars was a decent show, because they mainly fixed up stuff I'd never have any interest in personally, but it was fun to learn about Cords and Packards and a bunch of other also ran manufacturers who were all but gone by the '60s. 

However, in really thinking about it I think what most of us don't like about guys like Gas Monkey isn't that they make money off the hobby; its that we don;t think they are really car guys at heart.  They're like that guy you meet at a party that knows all the specs of a car out of a magazine, but hasn't a clue when you start talking about repairing or modifying a car.  Its the same reason I never really read magazines like Motor Trend.  Anyone with enough money can buy a shiny, fast new car.  Not just anyone can rebuild a wreck, make a worn out musclecar handle like its on rails, or turn a boat anchor into a strip hero.  Guys like Richard Rawlins pay guys like us to do that stuff, so we respect the mechanics and techs but not so much the guy who just writes the checks.

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Gas Monkey found a very rare Boss 9 » 12/22/2024 7:06 AM

RTM wrote:

I'm watching Gas Monkey now. He just bought a 65 Shelby for $300k and sold it for $400k.

Yeah, the car you used to be able to buy for $30k.  Thanks a lot @$$ monkey!
 

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Most old(er) guys will agree wid 'dis.... » 12/22/2024 7:03 AM

Depending on the manufacturer, metric can be a load easier.  My WRX for example uses only 8mm, 10mm, 12mm, 14mm, and 18mm fasteners.  The only exceptions are the half shafts and the transaxle drain plug.  With a handful of sockets, one pin punch, and a Philips head screwdriver you can work on anything on that car. 

The worst vehicles are the half and halfs.  "Well its not a 9/16, and its not a 5/8, ugh!  15mm!"  Meanwhile the bolt right next to it is 1/2". 
 

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » 1965 Ford 289 valve adjustment and idling issue » 12/21/2024 12:53 PM

I've never been a fan of adjusting them while the engine is running.  It tends to throw oil everywhere.  I've seen guys cut up old valve covers to try and make shields to lessen it, but its still an unnecessary mess IMO.  No reason not to do them statically, especially on a hydraulic cam. 

Personally I've never had much luck trying to turn the pushrods.  They always come out too tight when I do it that way.  I move the pushrod up an down instead.  when the slack is gone I go another 1/2 turn
 

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » My idea of the perfect set-up.... » 12/21/2024 12:50 PM

rpm wrote:

MS wrote:

Maybe the solution to my traction issue is to install dually rear tires on my 66!

 
Or install a Detroit Locker to eliminate one wheel peel. With your open headers you'll never hear the DL.

Probably still feel it though
 

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Most old(er) guys will agree wid 'dis.... » 12/21/2024 7:46 AM

If you want to avoid metric tools you are relegating yourself to vehicles built in the '70s.  Even by the '80s they were half and half.  Today basically everything is metric.  I'm now genuinely surprised when a standard socket fits better.  Though, in fairness there is a reasonable amount of crossover.  5/16 and 8mm, 9/16 and 14mm, and 3/4 and 19mm are generally considered the same size. 

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » 1965 Ford 289 valve adjustment and idling issue » 12/21/2024 7:42 AM

Yep, I concur.  I did this on a 350 I built years ago.  My neighbor came over and head it crank and knew immediately what I did wrong.  He adjusted the valves and she lit off immediately. 

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » My idea of the perfect set-up.... » 12/21/2024 7:38 AM

6sally6 wrote:

425-450 HP.... 150 Nitrous shot....top loader 4 speed...dual disc clutch...narrowed trac-loc with 3.00:1 gears
Couple of Big Fat Mickeys on the back..as close to bullet-proof as there is....RIGHT!?

Seems a lot more like: Diesel dually with locked up rear some moron swapped a new driveshaft into and quickly discovered that the original drivehsaft being mangled wasn't due to anything having been wrong with the driveshaft. 

"It won't move!"

"The brakes are just stuck, floor it!"
 

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » My idea of the perfect set-up.... » 12/21/2024 7:36 AM

MS wrote:

Only as good as the weakest link

Which everyone who knows anything would tell you should be the clutch.  This is what happens when you ignore the advice of folks who know better than you. 

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Gas Monkey found a very rare Boss 9 » 12/21/2024 7:32 AM

RCodePaul wrote:

TKOPerformance wrote:

Hah, I forgot about her!  She was great.  The problem with flippers is that they aren't part of the hobby.  They've monetized our hobby.   

That's a better way to say it. They are present, they think they are part of it. But it's really entities that drive the hobby - suppliers, innovators, tech boards - all aspects of the hobby that are additive. These are vital and while money is a part of it, it's not all of it. The flipper thing is that they are interlopers gouging away at the hobby getting in the way of true restorers, hot rodders, restomodders. 

Correct, and its the same in most every industry as well.  Almost all the flip houses I've ever looked at for people are exactly the same.  Shortcuts are taken, things are done wrong, and they don't care because when these "fixes" fail they will be long gone.  People who don't know any better just look at the shiny exterior.  People like us are smart enough to bring a magnet. 
 

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Gas Monkey found a very rare Boss 9 » 12/19/2024 2:59 PM

Quicksilver wrote:

Well, I used to like" Counts Customs", Even saw a complete 69 camero he did at a local car show over here. Nothing done Mickey mouse on the car.

Yeah, Danny seems like a solid dude. 
 

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Gas Monkey found a very rare Boss 9 » 12/19/2024 6:46 AM

RCodePaul wrote:

Not a fan of that guy. The only good part of that BS show was when the upholstery gal would call him "a$$ monkey" and tell him to beat it. Flippers just seem like a scummy part of this hobby. 

Hah, I forgot about her!  She was great.  The problem with flippers is that they aren't part of the hobby.  They've monetized our hobby.  Then people with more money than sense bid their junk up at auctions making these cars even less affordable to the average hobbyist. 
 

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Just figures! » 12/18/2024 7:41 AM

I often have been critical of past work I did as well, but then I remember a couple things:

1.) Like you said, you had to start somewhere.  It would be a problem if what I turned out today still looked like what I turned out at 16. 

2.) It was the dark ages back then.  There was no internet, no Youtube, etc.  A lot of what we did was the old farmer method of "cut and try".  Kids today are spoiled with all the world's information at their fingertips.  We at best had a manual, or the advice of more seasoned people.
 

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » And the Big Wheel of life just keeeps on roll'in..... » 12/17/2024 6:50 AM

RCodePaul wrote:

RTM wrote:

Now ask me how things I've done more than once on my build. Lol

Ah, please DON'T ask me how many things I've done more than once on my build. Please.

One thing I don't think I'll ever do is buy an all electric car. Jim across the street had to have one to go with his electric mower, edger, trimmer, hedger, chain saw and even an electric pruner. Sheesh. He bought an all electric KIA (killed in action?) during the lockdowns for $5k over sticker. Ouch. Had to have it. It had the most annoying backup beep in all of history. Not much later, he got in a relatively minor collision. Car was totaled, which seemed impossible based on the damage I closely observed (at his invitation.)
After he fought with AAA for a couple of months to get his "enhanced total loss value" - which he had and qualified for - he got $50k plus for it and promptly bought an ICE powered car. Good riddance. 

If the damage from a collision comes close to the battery they total the vehicle, because considering the cost of the battery the vehicle is not worth fixing.  A damaged battery can short internally and catch fire.  The liability is something no one wants to touch.  For all the green this and that made over EVs they pollute terribly when made, and then become throw away vehicles once the battery is done.  60% of our power also still comes from fossil fuels. 
 

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