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FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Boss 302 video » Today 6:03 AM

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The value can vary greatly depending on if it's a service block or not.  The 69 parts bring more money than the 70's parts.  If it has all the small stuff like the carb and so on then the price really goes up.

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Possible 351C Boss engine find » Yesterday 11:49 AM

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TKOPerformance wrote:

If the price is right, the price is right.  If the price is wrong, the price is wrong.  I've always tried to live by the idea that the wrong part for the right price is still the wrong part, and vice versa.  Its definitely an interesting piece of nostalgia.  I just find it odd that if he wasn't going to use the engine why did he just let it sit for all these years?  I would have turned around and sold it immediately to help fund the Jag project.  Not trying to poo poo the deal, I just know how these things go sometimes.  We get so caught up in the quest that sometimes we need a voice of reason to get our brain reengaged when our heart has taken  over.  I'm definitely curious what you find out regardless of whether or not you decide to try and buy it or not.  It shows that at the very least cool stuff is still out there waiting to be found. 

 
When I bought my current project it had 1969 Boss 302 stuffed in it with a four speed.  Seller didn't know what he had and only knew it was some kind of race engine.    I made an offer I thought was fair given I couldn't rotate the engine.    Six weeks later no one bought it.  I called and said my offer still stands.   I sold that engine and trans for more than double the price of purchase.   And the engine just had stuck rings from sitting, no cylinder damage at all.   

I plan on being in Ohio for NHRA event.   So if I can make it happen while I'm there then so be it.   Otherwise it'll be no big deal.  Not making a special trip just for this engine.  As for not using or selling it.   He was going to scrap it.

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Boss 302 video » 3/31/2025 4:48 PM

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ponch0v wrote:

Interesting Boss 302 video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ycXBunke6Q

 
Pretty good video.   I didn't know about the short run in the other series of racing.

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Possible 351C Boss engine find » 3/31/2025 5:19 AM

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TKOPerformance wrote:

I would look at it as needing a complete rebuild, and frankly I'd use the bore scope just to try and determine IF that's even a possibility without major machining costs.  If there's rust in the bores, or its locked up I'd walk.  Ultimately most any block is salvageable, but the cost of having to sleeve cylinders, etc. makes the proposition less and less attractive.  I'm trying to remember the reason claimed for the engine being out of a car and in storage, but think about it for a minute.  If you had a 500HP world beater of an engine would it be sitting in a corner covered with junk and rat turds if it still ran right?  Yeah, me neither.  I'm reminded of those famous words we've all probably heard when looking at an old car that's been sitting for Lord knows how long: ran when parked.  Let's be honest; that's a lie in terms.  If it ran WHY was it parked?  No one parks a running, driving vehicle and just lets it sit there forever. 

 
The person who owns the engine is not a ford guy.  He bought the jaguar to restore it back to original.   The engine was in the jaguar when he bought it.   He was smart enough to not toss it and if I understood my buddy, he made it sound like the guy was thinking about scraping it now.  He told him he knew me and I was into ford engines so my buddy then asked me if I was interested in it.  I don't think the seller will or even cares for top dollar, think he'll be happy to get something for it instead of scrap money.   Im not looking to pay top dollar and will only buy it if it's worth my while.  Meaning if I was to flip I could make a few bucks for my trouble.

Seller did have a cool story about how and when it was built.  Can't wait to see the paperwork.

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Possible 351C Boss engine find » 3/30/2025 2:48 PM

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Rudi wrote:

It might be just me but when I look at the picture of the engine it appears to have been rode hard and put away wet.
I sure would have a more detailed inspection before purchasing.

 
I'll take my little bore scope and some tools with me to look inside of the cylinders.  Either way, if it's a real 351C Boss engine and the price is right, I'll buy it.

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Possible 351C Boss engine find » 3/30/2025 2:02 PM

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We have never discussed price and hadn't done so because I had no idea of what he really had other than what he had told me over the phone.  I'm referring to the owner of the engine.  Seeing this picture I'm glad we haven't talked money yet.  If I recall it's been sitting for more than 10-15 years so who knows what kind of shape it's in on the inside. 

Maybe part of the cool factor for me is not having the ability to own any rare ford performance engines.   I had to sell the boss 302 that was in my project when I bought.  It was the only way to afford to buy sheet metal for it.  I couldn't at the time afford to keep it.  Now do I need something like that just to sit around, no.  The 351C boss would be put to use and I do have a thing for keeping stuff old school.  I'm not a fan of modern engines in vintages muscle cars. I have to explain my current engine now to everyone so the boss would be no different.

There's always that option to sell it and put the money to a 351w 408 build.   I'm a long ways away from making any sort of decisions and I haven't even made an offer yet.  But it's exciting chasing done some cool old ford stuff.  It'll be interesting to see what kind of paperwork he actually has on the engine.

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Possible 351C Boss engine find » 3/30/2025 7:10 AM

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TKOPerformance wrote:

I think there are probably far cheaper options than either of those engines that make just as much power and are easier to install.  If cost were no object I'd build the 390 I have into a 445 stroker with aluminum heads an 8 stack EFI.  I just can't justify it though when a stroker 5.0 will make just about the same power for less than half the cost. 

 
I agree but like it was mentioned before, there's that cool factor.  I've never been an FE fan but it recent years I've grown to appreciate them and even follow a facebook fe group.  I've only ever put one fe together and it was a cross bolt block.  That's all I remember about it.  I was very young and didn't know a lot about the older ford performance stuff.  The guy I worked for then had 19 Shelby mustangs.  I traveled to a lot of swap meets with him too.  I learned a lot at his shop.

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Possible 351C Boss engine find » 3/30/2025 6:44 AM

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BobE wrote:

I agree w/TKO’s response from a few months ago.  I’d suggest feeling out the market for this engine, or even a Boss 351 club on the web, or Facebook.  Unless you have specific plans for the engine it may just sit for another long time.

 
Actually me and my son were thinking of putting it in the 70 fastback I'll be building for him.  That will be a year out or more before I can start that project.   Who knows my son may change his mind and want the new 7.3 Godzilla put in it.

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Possible 351C Boss engine find » 3/30/2025 5:07 AM

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Well I finally got a picture of the said Boss 351C engine.  Suppose to be a 500 ho build by Blue Oval in Brookpark Ohio.  I'm not sure what that means and I don't recall ever hearing anything about Blue Oval when I lived there.  Other than I know the engine plant is there.   This is what my buddy said about the engine which is coming from his friend that owns the engine.

So the motor exists, I saw it today.  However his mom has used it to store stuff on it.  He will be in the house for the next three weeks and I will go over and help unbury it and roll it out for more photos.  He has the dyno paperwork but that is also probably buried.  It is apparently a blue oval built Boss engine built in brook park.  500 hp and was last ran in a jaguar race car.  Supposedly only around 1250 built.  I don’t know what most of that means or what it takes to rebuild an engine like this but I am sure you do.  I will follow up with photos.  By the way we will be down there in June.

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » I FINALLY got another video up on my 393W build » 3/30/2025 4:59 AM

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I'm really impressed with the time and effort it takes to put these great videos together.   You really do a great job at explaining things.

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » 351 Roller block » 3/27/2025 11:48 AM

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Around here in SW Florida a bare block on average is about $500 and more in if it's a complete engine.   I got lucky when I needed one I posted a want as and found one for $200.    That was a couple years ago.  I still watch hoping to snag a deal on another one, even though I don't need it.

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » 1965-66 tail light buckets do yall normally replace the whole bucket » 3/27/2025 11:45 AM

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BILLY WALTON from GEORGIA wrote:

6sally6 wrote:

BILLY WALTON from GEORGIA wrote:


Actually...
I..


I  I may paint the inside of the buckets black .
 

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Bad idea !^^^^^^^^
Paint them white to REFLECT the LED light
6sally6
 

These thing are BRIGHT
mine dont use the bucket to reflect watch the video it explains it better than pictures.....


https://www.cjponyparts.com/led-taillight-kit-1965-1966/p/TLK14/

https://youtu.be/MHnta5TCtrQ


 

 
Those look just like what I bought but I bought directly from the manufacturer.    Now I can't recall who they were.   I'll look it up when I get home.   It might be in an old of mine. I only mention buying directly because CJ's tends to have a lot of issues with delivering people's orders.

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » When cleaning up under hood wiring what covering do you..... » 3/26/2025 6:01 AM

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I bought the proper wire tape, not sticky to rewrap the wiring work I had to do on my build.  I also used the plastic covering for a cleaner look and it adds a little more protection.

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Started wet sanding » 3/23/2025 4:23 PM

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Drivers side is done.  Hood is almost ready to be buffed.  Not sure why I can't post pictures.   

I decided not to start it and try to tune it and set the timing.   Figured I would focus on wet sanding.

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Another set back!!!!!!!!!!!!!! » 3/23/2025 4:19 PM

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Nos681 wrote:

BobE…I am sure there is “something” in the water…I am crazy enough to still live here. 😂

RTM…great when things aren’t as bad as we initially think.  Car looks great.

 
Thank you.

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » 1965-66 tail light buckets do yall normally replace the whole bucket » 3/23/2025 4:18 PM

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I tried to use my old buckets and gave up. I ordered new ones from NPD.  I did have a hard time plugging in the plug into the socket.  A little electrical grease and I was able to get them both on.

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Another set back!!!!!!!!!!!!!! » 3/23/2025 6:57 AM

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Got the heater box reinstalled yesterday in the mustang.   It wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be.   I may try to set the timing today and adjust the carb.  Plus continue wet sanding.

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » So I opened a can of worms... » 3/20/2025 5:59 AM

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I can relate.  But now you'll have peace of mind knowing it's all good.  Bonus finding the bad ground wire.

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Summit racing carburetor 600 cfm questions » 3/19/2025 10:21 AM

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They are stuck open from dirt or something getting in there and they could simple be bad.  Today's gas is very hard on rubber products and the part that seals on the needle seat is rubber.   Most likely will need to overhaul with a rebuild kit.

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Class Auto Air customer service top notch » 3/19/2025 10:19 AM

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I'm very pleased with the customer service at CAA.  I had torn the heater box completely apart before I had contacted them about repairing the heater core I put a hole in.   It came back completely rebuilt like new and packaged in their box, which is far superior to the box I sent it in.   Can't wait to get it installed and pray I have no more coolant leaks.

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Started wet sanding » 3/19/2025 9:27 AM

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6sally6 wrote:

WOW!!!!!!!!! You have sanded the Mustang so much ...it now looks like a Bronco !!
Oh well......I like Broncos
6s6

 
lol

I use to have a 71 bronco.

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Car went in for paint Friday (3/14) » 3/19/2025 9:26 AM

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Fresh paint is like getting a new car.  Looking forward to pictures

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Summit racing carburetor 600 cfm questions » 3/19/2025 9:25 AM

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Steve69 wrote:

Hey Guys,

Last year my 347 engine was running rich.  I'd saw a little black smoke from the exhaust when I stepped on it and the MPG were really bad.  I connected a AFR gauge and that confirmed it.  Other than that, the carburetor had some fuel boiling when it was hot but ran great.  Idle great and no bog or issues.  Has all new spark plugs and ignition. Total timing was set at 34 degrees.  It was actually running quite well after I got some of the bugs worked out with the ignition.  

During the winter I thought I would drop the carburetor two jet sizes since the fuel bowl would be empty because of sitting all winter.  I pulled the top of the carburetor and floats.  I left the fuel line connected on the top.  Had to move the top a 45 angle to disconnect the choke lever.  Installed the new jets.  All straight forward.
  
I went out to fire it up and it wouldn't start.  There was just cranking.  I checked the spark and that was good.  I put a little fuel in the carburetor to make the fuel pull up quicker from the tank.   Got it to fire but ran bad.  I had to hold and pump the pedal to keep it running.   I took a look at the fuel bowl site glass and could see anything.  I moved the car around a bit and fuel lever appears to be above the glass circle.  I also noticed a puddle of fuel on the intake manifold below.  I'm thinking the fuel must have leaked from the top where the gasket is to seal the top of the carburetor.   Both fuel bowls were over the site glass top.   I didn't expect taking the top off the carburetor to replace the jets would have affected the fuel bowl adjustment.  

Should I try adjusting the floats to drop the fuel lever down?    Am I missing or overlooking something?

Thanks for the help!
Steve69

 

 
If your fuel level is to high then the needle seats are stuck open.

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