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FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Timing the old 289 » 9/06/2019 7:54 AM

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Whoh, thats way too much!
Base timing should be around 6 degrees without vac.  Add about 10 with vac.  That opens the door to the 30 additional degrees vac advance at 2500.  There should be a small bushing where the vac advance connects to the advance plate in the distributor that limits the total advance  All in at 3500 should be in the 35 degree range.
Now, its possible the rubber has slipped in the balancer, showing the wrong advance, or you are looking at the wrong mark, but either way, there is WAY too much vac included advance.

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Gas Tank » 4/02/2019 1:22 PM

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Thanks Steve.  Before I retired, I was an instructor for high pressure gas steel lines.  That one should be a piece of cake.  I'll blow our the main fuel line with acetone and WD-40 before deciding on replacing it.  One more notch in my to-do list.

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Gas Tank » 3/31/2019 5:30 PM

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To answer a couple of questions:
The car has been sitting for way too long, in total almost 20 years.  It has been started periodically but not in the past year for a number of reasons.  I have used Stabil but apparently it didnt do any good.  I blame most of the problems on the Ethanol in the fuel.
The carb is a zero mile, 2 year old Holley Street Demon I bought from the Holley store.  It has been run and it ran very well the last time I started it.  I promptly went out in our pasture and did do-nuts until the cows stopped me (those curious enough to care).  Since I tore it apart, I seriously doubt Holley would make any effort to warranty it for me, plus the tar in the inside meets the "proper fuel required" exclusion.  Right now, its soaking in cleaner.  I will try and straighten the top cover gasket.  For what its worth, it looks EXACTLY like the one in this video: https://youtu.be/8zwXzway1JQ at the 9:40 minute mark.  Even the floats were really out of wack, almost 3/8" different between them.

I'll accept a good used tank if its available within a reasonable driving distance of New Braunfels.

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Gas Tank » 3/31/2019 5:21 PM

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Moved from the Swap Meet section:

Our Long Neglected 66 Coupe gas tank has decided its no good.  I was trying to get it started the other day and no fuel was going to the fuel pump, and what dripped out smelled far worse than a refinery.  I pulled the fuel filler neck and what was inside resembled road tar, turpentine, varnish and cow drippings.

I removed the tank and drained what was left and tried to clean the tank but gave up.  I'm not a fan of boiling a tank and decided to find a decent replacement.

Besides the tank, the fuel sender is toast along with what I suspect is the entire fuel line and fuel pump.  The carb is also ruined  (almost new Holley Street Demon).  Upon disassembly, the floats were not adjusted correctly and the gasket was not in line with the bowl (a common problem with this carb).  The whole inside was tarred brown and gummy.  I may try and resurrect it however.

One step forward, a dozen backwards.

So, I'm looking for a gas tank and sender in the Central Texas/ New Braunfels area.  Any suggestions?

Swap Meet » Long Neglected 66 Coupe gas tank » 3/31/2019 12:19 PM

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Our Long Neglected 66 Coupe gas tank has decided its no good.  I was trying to get it started the other day and no fuel was going to the fuel pump, and what dripped out smelled far worse than a refinery.  I pulled the fuel filler neck and what was inside resembled road tar, turpentine, varnish and cow drippings.

I removed the tank and drained what was left and tried to clean the tank but gave up.  I'm not a fan of boiling a tank and decided to find a decent replacement.

Besides the tank, the fuel sender is toast along with what I suspect is the entire fuel line and fuel pump.  The carb is also ruined  (almost new Holley Street Demon).  Upon disassembly, the floats were not adjusted correctly and the gasket was not in line with the bowl (a common problem with this carb).  The whole inside was tarred brown and gummy.  I may try and resurrect it.

One step forward, a dozen backwards.

So, I'm looking for a gas tank and sender in the Central Texas/ New Braunfels area.  Any suggestions?

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Batteries? » 10/27/2018 1:14 PM

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There were two style of batteries back in the 60's, the Group 24 and Group 24F.  Guess what the "F" stood for?  (Actually, there were a couple more but this was the 75% market share).
The "F" battery was identical to the standard 24 except the posts were reversed, hopefully to prevent the positive terminal from being so close.
I too was a technician in the 60's and fixed more than one car by it having enough battery cable length to allow the other battery.

Show Your Mustang Pictures and History » My poor long neglected 66 Coupe » 7/12/2018 3:52 PM

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This is our long neglected 66 Coupe we purchased at a car show in 1998.  It was a father and son high school project, or I guess, it was supposed to be.  Once we got it home, almost everything that was supposed to be new was not or improperly installed.  This includes brake shoes (all primary on one side and secondary on the other), ball joints not properly installed, alternator mis-wired resulting in an underhood fire, u-joints, shocks, and 4 different tires on 3 different width rims.  Somewhere down the road someone tried to do a cowl patch and drilled a bunch of 1/2" holes and put metal plates over the holes, then bondo on top of that.
Some basics on the car.  Built in San Jose, it is a 289 C-code that has had the Edelbrock Street Performer intake and cam kit and at one time had the Edelbrock 4bbl carb (now a Holley Demon).  It is backed by a Green Dot C-4.
Since we got it, a pecan tree drop a nice limb on the hood and roof which prompted me to do the long term repairs.
So far, I have the Mustang Plus Grab-A-Track suspension, springs, shocks, and Scarebird brakes.  I'm still sorting out the hydraulics.
Plans are to get it back on the street soon (!) and upgrade the interior.
For some reason, this is all TinyPic would allow.  It uploaded multiple images then quit.

Show Your Mustang Pictures and History » New progress on the beast. » 7/12/2018 3:18 PM

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Really nice work!  I am embarrassed to say I'm 18 years into mine!

Tips and How-To's » Strut rod bracket placement 1970 » 7/04/2018 4:58 PM

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Just remember that these brackets get most of the braking stress forces and the full brunt of a pothole or curb hit.  Make them as strong as you can, then a bit stronger.  I dont mean to be critical and I can't see your other welds, but hopefully these are tack welds.

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Shelby Drop Drill bit. This is best tool for the job. » 6/10/2018 10:04 AM

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I was an ASE Master Auto Technician in the 70's-mid 80's before I had an accident which required an occupational realignment and I made my living with my tools.  I have a Snap-On taco wagon, the early mid 80's version, not the house on wheels you see today, which is still full with most of my hand tools.  My Ingersoll air tools are still strong but most of my screw driver handles have long since decomposed (?).  I have been teaching since the late 80's and no longer have access to Snap-on, MAC or Matco and wont trade with Cornwell, BUT, I have a Harbor Freight, Home Depot, and Lowes within 15 minutes of our home.  I make a weekly walk-through HF and recently saw Home Depot carrying Craftsman tools and boxes.
My HF compound radial saw is approaching 20 years old and plenty strong and I have yet to break any of my HF end wrenches and sockets unless I really get stupid and put a 3/8 drive socket on my 1/2" Ingersoll impact, but we dont do that, do we?
Yes, I know where probably 100% of HF tools come from and feel I have to weigh the rationale, but I am a retired teacher on a fixed income and have to watch my spending.  I am a fan of HF though and until the trade tariff's get sorted out, I will continue to be a shopper.

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Shelby Drop Drill bit. This is best tool for the job. » 6/09/2018 7:32 AM

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Harbor Freight quality is really pretty good.  Most of my tool purchases today are from HF, including the drill bits and the taper drills.  They last as long as the much more expensive brands at the orange box store.

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Ethanol Free gas for sale » 5/31/2018 5:41 PM

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This might be a topic worth discussing, or maybe setting up a database of ethanol free gas stations.

Not too far from where I live, Murphy's gas in San Marcos (in Texas, they are partnered with Walmart) has 87 octane ethanol free gas but it's a little pricey, at $2.80 per gallon when unleaded 87 is $2.54 (yesterday driveby).  I put a tank in my 016 Ford Edge and saw a 1.25 mpg improvement (on the fly recalibration of the ECU by adjusting the fuel mixture to allow for the different btu fuel).

Also, there is a current radio ad that is pushing for the government to make E-15 available, by putting US corn growers back to work.  I am a flag waving patriot but I am also very familiar with engine and combustion processes.  I have seen the damage done by ethanol, at levels advertised at 10% or less, just imagine what another adding 5%+ would do.  Frankly I dont see the benefit for our farmers, plus the fact that ethanol production is barely if at all cost effective, its mostly subsidized.  Most of the proponents of E15 are the ethanol producers.

Ok, off the soap box for now.

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Molly McQueen reunited with Bullitt » 5/05/2018 9:07 AM

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Maybe I missed something, but I thought they recently found the original in Mexico?

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » a short of sorts » 5/02/2018 7:20 AM

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Hate to be a spoiler but is that a Rambler American in the background?  There used to be a Hurst SC/Rambler In Austin in the early 70's with the 390.  Absolutely nothing in street trim could touch it. 

One seriously worked over 69 Mach 1 would match it.  The American flag painted between the tail lights is still a frequent memory.

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Leak!! » 4/19/2018 8:53 AM

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I've resealed doxens of power steering pumps, its not that hard.  The single biggest culprit is when people pry against the can instead of the pump body near the pulley.  The pry effort frequently distorts the can near the front where the o-ring seal is.  Any distortion cannot or is extremely difficult to straighten.  The o-ring fits around the cast iron pump and the can seals directly around the o-ring.  There is no pressure in the can but hot power steering fluid is thinner than water and can seep out.
The second most common source of leaks is the front seal followed by the pressure outlet nut/pressure regulator fitting.

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Solid state CVR's.... » 4/15/2018 1:39 PM

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I was looking for some nylon bolts and nuts for an unrelated project.  eBay had a box of them, about 80 assorted pieces for something like $3.99, INCLUDING shipping, from Hong Kong.  My local supplier had 8 1/4" X 1" nylon bolts with nuts for about $4.00.

Not too long ago there was an article about Chinese shippers dumping merchandise on unsuspecting buyers to boost their bulk USPS discount.

Paint & Body » Body gaps » 3/21/2018 11:26 AM

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I'm finally getting around to reassembling our Long Neglected 66 Coupe, after being apart for almost 20 years.  I tore it down to repair a rusted cowl and wound up doing a full Mustang Plus suspension upgrade and body paint.  Point to note is that the car was on jack stands for most of the 18 years, located at the rear axle and front crossmember.

All of the sheet metal is original with the exception of the drivers door which was replaced sometime in the long past.  The car HAS been apart at one time for some reason, probably prior body work which MAY have included an attempt at cowl repair, I found way too much seam sealer in weird areas.  Being that it is near 50 years old, I'm surprised there wasnt more rust or collision repair.

As the photos show, there is an gap at the drivers fender to door, all the other gaps line up ok.
Drivers side fender gap to door.
The bottom of the door to fender gap is ok, as is the gap along the door bottom and rear.

The drivers door gap at the rear is ok too.


As a comparison, the right fender to door gap is ok.
Now, I feel I know what the general consensus will be, that the body is high center sprung causing the body to bow.  It has never had any support in the "A" pillar area for more than a few minutes, at least not in the past 20 years.  It has not been wrecked more than superficial parking lot damage and I really dont remember this gap when I tore the body down, but again, it was 18 years ago.  The only thing that I think MAY have any relation is I installed frame stiffeners but that is towards the center and rear.

Perplexed

Swap Meet » 66 Coupe front and rear seats for sale » 3/21/2018 11:06 AM

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I'm upgrading the interior on our 66 Coupe and want to sell these original front seats.  They are plain vinyl, not the pony.  They all need recovering and new foam.  The sliding seat tracks are NOT included.
Free delivery in the New Braunfels, Tx area. Askling $100.00..

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Air bearings » 3/17/2018 9:51 AM

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Some of the heavy duty vehicle recovery teams use a bag to upright a vehicle.  The bag only uses a couple of psi of air to inflate.  Many years ago, popular mechanics featured a bag was that connected to a tailpipe that would lift a vehicle.  It depends on the surface area under the lift which will determine the amount of air pressure.

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Are the extra 49 cubic inches worth it? » 2/06/2018 6:14 PM

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Ok, to throw a wrench in the works, my first job (in the late 60's) boss had a 62 Galaxie with the inline 6, 3 speed overdrive and 355 gears.  That old 6 really ran well and cruised the highway all day at 70+, and if you kicked it out of overdrive, it would easily pull past 100.  Sort of strange combination.  I dont remember if it was the old 240 or the earlier 223.  It also got way past 20 mpg.  That monster also had a trailer hitch which the owner used to pull his rv (remember, this was in the 60's, not the mobile-home type we have today, this resembles the teardrop).
Performance is relative, I doubt if the engine made much over 120 bhp.

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Old School Warning for Everyone » 12/29/2017 10:10 AM

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As a young mechanics apprentice in the late 1960's, I worked in a garage across the street from a large commercial truck tire shop.  I saw the aftermath of a split rim explosion.  One of the seasoned tire changers was filling the rim from the back side, supposedly to prevent being hit if the rim lip came loose.  Remember those long tire air inflator tools with an air chuck on both sides?
I guess he never heard of Issac Newton.
The rim split loose and the big part tore off his right arm and most of his rib cage was crushed.  He lasted a couple of days and never lost consciousness.  He was wide awake when the ambulance took him away.
The very next week, someone was changing coil springs on a truck without a spring compressor and it tore him in half.  He didnt survive.  The cinderblock wall on one end of the shop was holed about 8' across.

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » 351W new, stored since ‘09 Advice? » 12/23/2017 9:52 AM

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Back off the rockers entirely, completely unload the lifters.  Spin the engine with the starter only, not running.  That removes the high friction point at the lifter and cam surface.  When you have a good comfort factor, readjust the valve clearance.  Flat tappet?  Hydraulic or solid?

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » 351W new, stored since ‘09 Advice? » 12/22/2017 11:23 AM

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If it sat for that long, I would be concerned about any remaining oil coating on the cam and lifter faces.  The cam surfaces lubricate from crank throwoff and I suspect it has all drained by now.  If nothing else, follow TKO and MS recommendations about priming and inspect the springs, then back off the rocker arms to unload the lifters from the cam.  Spin the engine so any lube from the crank will reach the camshaft.

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Better race than Nascar or F1 » 12/10/2017 10:17 AM

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Cool.  Now, I have to think what made the winner so competitive?  Even though he trailed for a section of the track, he ultimately pulled out quite a lead.

As an engineer, you have to perform confirmatory tests, including a validation of the win by conducting a series of repeat runs.  If the first winner comes out in front again, there is something unique about that particular marble.

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » C-4 Transmission » 11/30/2017 12:23 PM

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The pan will hold a couple of quarts but when you drop it, the torque converter will also tend to drain a bit.  A total fluid fill is somewhere in the 8 to 10 quart range.  I wouldnt be surprised if it held close to 4, maybe a bit more.  Check for leaks at the modulator, the shifter and kickdown shaft seals, the speedo adapter o-ring, and the dipstick o-ring, they are all very common leak points, often mistaken for front seal leaks.

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