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FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Happy Mustang Birthday » 4/17/2024 12:55 PM

Ron68
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The 65 - build date 30 Nov 64. The 68 build date 15 July 68. Happy Birthday to my ponies!

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Borgeson Pump vs Ford (67 w/289 PS) » 4/10/2024 1:16 PM

Ron68
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TKOPerformance wrote:

It clears.  I have a factory AC compressor on my car.

Ron, some people may just be luckier than others on the bracket.  Mine failed.  There are a bunch of posts about failures on various forums.  Having messed with accessory drives on various makes and models over the years I can tell you no factory mounting system is anywhere near the way Borgesson mounts that pump, basically relying on bolts and spacers, which can flex with no triangulation.  Overall they build a great system, but the pump bracket and lower column bearing leave a lot to be desired. 
 

I am wondering about the bolt breakage issue and if what I did made a difference. The two spacers supplied with my kit from Borgeson were 2" and 1/2". I needed 3" of spacing for my pump to line up with my lower pulley. I had some 1" steel stock that I gave to a machinist at work to make me two 3" spacers. Since the supplied bolts were too short for a 3" spacer installation, I went to the local Ace Hardware store and bought two longer grade 8 bolts to install. Maybe the higher strength bolts make a difference.  I did have to make one modification after the initial install. At higher rpms, the belt would contact the water pump pulley, so I elongated the mounting holes to move the pump so that the belt would clear the pulley.
 

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Borgeson Pump vs Ford (67 w/289 PS) » 4/09/2024 9:32 PM

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I can see what you are saying MS, and also that cgomate's situation has the AC compressor in the way. That bracket of yours would definitely add stability to the installation. Guess I'm lucky that mine hasn't failed yet.

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Borgeson Pump vs Ford (67 w/289 PS) » 4/09/2024 7:06 PM

Ron68
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I have to respectfully disagree with the fact that the Borgeson mounting bracket causes vibration and bolt breakage. I installed my Borgeson system in July of 2010 and I haven't had a single issue with the system. No vibration, noisy pump, leakage - zilch. That is reliable performance for almost 14 years.

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » 289 engine question » 4/03/2024 6:47 PM

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So, I was over at my wife's nephew's place looking at some  B-17 cockpit windows he has and I noticed an engine block and parts in a corner. (The parts had been owned by his late father who passed away two years ago) There appears to be almost a complete engine with new parts in boxes. The block has been tanked and is clean, and appears to have been bored. There is a set of new pistons, two new heads, new cam shaft, main caps, an older style timing cover with a tall tube for adding oil, an oil pump pickup, but I couldn't find a crank or rods, lifters, pushrods, bearings, etc. They may be somewhere there, but I'll have to look deeper in his garage. I am pretty sure that it is a 289 as the date code on the block is 3L5 and the casting number is C4OE-6015C - which is interesting because the 289 in my 65 is 3L19 and C4OE-6015C, which is the engine he installed in my 65 when he did the restoration.

My question is this: What might he ask as an asking price to sell it? As it is, and also what it might be if I find all the rest? Thanks in advance.
 

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Tail lights any recomendations on the the LED taillights » 4/02/2024 1:15 AM

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I put a set of these on my 68 about 7 years ago and they are still working great.  https://www.classicleds.com/products64-66.html I got a set because back when we did the Bash in Kalispell, I was following Dave68 and he had LED sequential tail lights and I thought they really looked great.

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Third Part Extended Warranty Experience? » 4/01/2024 12:10 PM

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I consider them all to just be a big scam money grab by those companies. Most OEM warranty periods are long enough to cover most anything that will go wrong, and if you properly maintain your car, you should have many years of trouble free service from it.
Those that fall for those extended warranty gimmicks are usually not very knowledgeable about vehicles and their maintenance, so they think that a warranty like that will protect them from costly repairs. Guess what - most newer vehicles are pretty reliable and those who buy the warranty will more than likely never use it - thus their money paid to the warranty companies is pure profit. As P.T. Barnum is credited with saying - "There's a sucker born every minute." And W.C. Fields is famous for his line - "Never give a sucker an even break." Don't buy into those "extended warranties". JMHO
 

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Electric choke stuuck on Holley » 3/31/2024 9:41 PM

Ron68
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MS wrote:

Ron68 wrote:

I just finished rebuilding my Holley 4160 (450 cfm) on my 65 vert. It was stalling when going into turns occasionally and it had an off idle stumble. The choke was working fine, but it had those issues. I found some debris in the chamber that the power valve screwed into, but not much else internally. I did find that it had only six screws holding the throttle plate on instead of eight. The middle two were missing. After blowing everything clean, replacing all the seals and gaskets, I installed a new power valve. My old one was an 8.5 and the new one in the kit was a 6.5. I had adjusted the float chamber levels earlier, so when I replaced the float valves I had measured them with a feeler gauge. I set them to those settings, adjusted the idle mixture screws out 1 1/2 turns and set the automatic choke at the required setting of one mark toward lean. It had been on four, so the choke was a bit weak. I actually still have the choke stove setup.  It started and ran pretty well, and the stalling and off idle stumble are gone. Tomorrow I'm gonna hook up a vacuum gauge and fine tune the idle screws, and hopefully it will be good to go for a long while yet.

There are only six screws. Two holes do not have screws.

Well, mine do now. I found a couple that fit and put them in. Carb seems to work fine with them in. Will there be an issue with them in there? I'm a novice with Holley carbs....
 

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Electric choke stuuck on Holley » 3/31/2024 12:19 AM

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I just finished rebuilding my Holley 4160 (450 cfm) on my 65 vert. It was stalling when going into turns occasionally and it had an off idle stumble. The choke was working fine, but it had those issues. I found some debris in the chamber that the power valve screwed into, but not much else internally. I did find that it had only six screws holding the throttle plate on instead of eight. The middle two were missing. After blowing everything clean, replacing all the seals and gaskets, I installed a new power valve. My old one was an 8.5 and the new one in the kit was a 6.5. I had adjusted the float chamber levels earlier, so when I replaced the float valves I had measured them with a feeler gauge. I set them to those settings, adjusted the idle mixture screws out 1 1/2 turns and set the automatic choke at the required setting of one mark toward lean. It had been on four, so the choke was a bit weak. I actually still have the choke stove setup.  It started and ran pretty well, and the stalling and off idle stumble are gone. Tomorrow I'm gonna hook up a vacuum gauge and fine tune the idle screws, and hopefully it will be good to go for a long while yet.

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » MINI-BASH...MINI-BASH...MINI-BASH » 3/25/2024 1:17 PM

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lowercasesteve wrote:

The Eighth Air Force Museum (Maybe it's called the Strategic Air Force Museum) Is just south of Lincoln.  It's a great museum for WWII buffs.  lots of early warbirds.  If time permits, that could be a good couple of hours spent.

If you are ever up this way (Seattle area) and want to see an amazing collection of WWII aircraft and armor - visit the Flying Heritage and Combat Armor Museum at Paine Field airport near Everett, about 35 miles north of Seattle. It was the museum that the late Paul Allen put together before he died. I am a volunteer there at the museum and my job is cleaning and detailing those absolutely beautiful aircraft. The museum was sold by Paul's sister, Jody, to Stuart Walton, one  of the owners of Walmart. He thankfully kept the museum there in Everett and didn't move it all somewhere else. Here is a link:  https://flyingheritage.org/ Check it out.
 

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Thanks for all the advice on my Prostate Cancer ....GOOD UPDATE » 3/25/2024 12:43 AM

Ron68
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 Great news BILLY! I second getting that Mustang back on the road!

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Convertible Reinforcement Plate Holes » 3/20/2024 5:31 PM

Ron68
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Rudi wrote:

Transfer screws. It’s a commonly used device in tool rooms and machine shops.
Essentially a hardened set screw with a point ground or machined on one end.

In aviation, we called them "tittie pins". The head of the bolt had a sharp point or "tit" that would mark the center of the nutplate/captured nut you want to attach your material to.  Screw in you pin and position your new plate, then tap where it sits on the pin and you now have a mark to drill your attaching hole.
 

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » MS Surgery » 3/14/2024 8:06 PM

Ron68
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Just texted MS and he said that he is doing great and feeling pain free and is looking forward to a being able to walk again without pain. He said that everything went well and he is already walking the hallways at the hospital pushing his IV station with the drugs that are helping, but he doesn't feel drugged. He sent a picture - he looks great.

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Blast from the past » 3/12/2024 12:43 PM

Ron68
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Well, it is obvious that both you and the 66 have evolved into leaner, meaner versions since then. And that's a good thing.

Paint & Body » A outback mustang » 3/10/2024 11:47 PM

Ron68
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True74yamaha wrote:

MS wrote:

Found a new brand of beer, did you?

 
What type Brand of beer do you Fancy?

I want to come down to Texas at some point to see the sights plus eat! I want to try the steak challenge. The only item I think right now id have trouble eating is the baked potato.

As I recall while playing pool at the MS homestead in Ovilla a few years back, Lone Star seemed to be the beer of choice.....unless it has now taken a back seat to another.
 

Garage Points » More Garage Points for John Ha » 3/10/2024 1:35 PM

Ron68
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Garage points to John Ha for sending me the missing rear ash try sliding cover with the handle that I need for my 65 convertible! Thanks John!

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Inside a torque converter » 3/09/2024 8:04 PM

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6sally6 wrote:

Interesting linkage fer shore !! (multi-adjustable) I would expect NO LESS from you Bullet !
6sal6

Mike - that is my linkage setup on my 68 - I screwed up my posting making it look like BB's. I call it my Frankenstang linkage. I cobbed together a few shift  parts from different models and - it works.
 

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Inside a torque converter » 3/09/2024 3:31 AM

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Bullet Bob wrote:

Mike,
The "electronic" transmissions, like the 4R70W, are operated by hydraulic pressure butt (TS&T), they are "controlled" by a computer and solenoid valves.  They have a pressure control valve that is electrically controlled to vary the line pressure.  The control program in the electronic controller allows you to increase or decrease shift firmness as desired.  You can also control the shift points, up or down, and lockup RPM.  I have the Bauman "Quick 2" controller which does everything I need without getting too fancy.  Ron 68 stepped up to the Quick 4 controller which allows him to dial in a whole bunch of other parameters...like seat firmness, tire pressure, headlight intensity, and glovebox door latch release pressure.

BB
 

Nah BB - it was just more purdy than the Quick 2..... :-) and I just had to have it.
 

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Inside a torque converter » 3/08/2024 2:48 PM

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Bullet Bob wrote:

LIke TKO, I did my first auto-box (an AOD) in early the early 00"s and was amazed at the relative simplicity.  Just keep in mind that cleanliness is WAY more important (in transmissions) than Godliness, follow the instructions, and they are pretty easy to rebuild.  I even made my own clutch spring compressors and other tools which a couple of other guys on here have used.
Two years ago I rebuilt a 4R70W and stuffed in in the Heap to replace the AOD.  Other issues convinced me to go back to the AOD but a month ago I re-swapped to the 4R with a Bauman controller and am very happy. 
Will post a pic of my "stock" 66 shifter set up for the 4R70W if I can figure out how to make pix post again.
I would be very interested in seeing those pictures of your stock shifter mod to use on the 4R70W. I couldn't get my 68 shifter to work so I used a modified 1998 Mustang shifter with a 2002 Mustang shifter cable and bracket. It would be nice to have a stock looking shifter again. (It isn't pretty, but it works fine)

BB1
 

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FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Inside a torque converter » 3/08/2024 2:12 PM

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Bullet Bob wrote:

In nearly 40K miles, the AOD has only one problem.  I did not get the...yes, it's really called this...Anti-clunk spring properly installed.  So the center support in the case clunks...sometimes badlly.
Figured it out with the 4R70W and it silent.  Some day, if I decide to part with the AOD, I'll open it up and fix that spring.

BB
 

I had a time with that anti clunk spring during my rebuild on the  4R70W. The old spring was a coiled steel one that had worn a divot in the housing. The new replacement spring was a flat steel one that could be installed two different ways and I couldn't find a  manual reference stating how to orient it during installation. I called a local, very reputable transmission repair place and asked a tech there and he told me how to install it. No clunking, so I guess it was put in right.
 

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Inside a torque converter » 3/05/2024 12:48 PM

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TKOPerformance wrote:

As a kid I remember even guys I considered pretty mechanically inclined who regarded automatics as if they had alien technology in them straight from the Roswell crash site.  I started thinking, there are huge, national chains of transmission shops where guys who definitely don't have black site security clearance rebuilt these things day in and day out.  It can't be that bad.  In the early 2000's I cracked my first one open to do more than install a shift kit.  Decidedly underwhelming.  All the trickery was in the valve body.  The rest was a couple sets of wet clutches like a motorcycle, a couple sets of planetary gears, some pistons, springs, seals, a band like an old go kart brake, and bearings/bushings.  Modern transmissions don't even really have much of a valve body; they rely on solenoids to do the shifting.  They just have more of the other stuff.  I've successfully rebuilt a couple autos with only one special tool I had to buy and one other I made.  Its neat to know how they work, but IMO if you can rebuild an engine you can rebuild an auto. 

I agree. I rebuilt the C4 that I ran in my 68 behind the 351W for about 15 years. I then rebuilt and installed the 4R70W that is behind it today. Luckily I haven't had any problems with either transmission. With the proper rebuild manual, proper rebuild kit, and tools (thanks for the loan of the holding fixture and a couple of special tools Bullet Bob!) it wasn't all that hard to do. Just take your time, keep everything clean and you can do it. Wiring in the electronic control box and throttle position sensor on the carburetor was more challenging that the insides of the gearbox.

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » There are new six peice rear taillight kits for 1965-1966 mustang » 3/03/2024 11:55 PM

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Where do you plan on getting gas into your tank? All I see it the trunk latch.

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » I drove the 65 convertible today for the first time » 3/02/2024 1:55 AM

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  Wow - you've really been productive with that car since I last saw it in September. Nice job! Just takes time and money and parts and tools and a great shop and the knowledge and experience to get it done. Now just have to complete the repairs on your back and heal up, and you'll be right "back" at it!

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » MustangSteve’s LAW proven yet again » 2/26/2024 8:37 PM

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"Some days you're the windshield, and some days you're the bug".

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Brake issues » 2/25/2024 1:34 AM

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Did you bench bleed the master cylinder?

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