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FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » 1965 mustang 5.0 EFI SWAP header selection » 2/27/2015 2:32 PM |
I think that the key points have already been made, so I will simply add my opinion to the mix. I favor the shorty headers for these cars for a number of reasons. Long tube headers do perform a little bit better, but they are almost always a PITA when it comes to clearance issues.....the steering box, the steering linkage, the clutch linkage (or cable). All of these issues are solved with a nice set of shorty headers. I have not personally owned the Hedmans, but I have heard a lot of people say good things about them. I have been running a set of JBA's since 1996, it was a wonderful day when I replaced my third set of Tri-Y headers with them. The O2 bungs are typically placed in the section of pipe directly behind where you bolt onto the header collectors.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » No more high speed shake! » 1/25/2015 7:51 PM |
Awesome. Fixing a shake is one of the most satisfactory things you can do with an old car. It transforms the way that it drives and how much you want to drive it. Congratulations.....finding and fixing a shake can be a major pain.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » suspension gurus Ford related » 12/24/2014 9:55 AM |
I believe TKOPerformance was refering to "Chassis Engineering" by Herb Adams. It is a good book, but to me it is mainly an overview of what you need to know. That said, it is the perfect place to start to learn about modifying suspensions. It will show you how much you need to measure your existing chassis and suspension to determine exactly what it is doing in stock form. From there you can decide whether changes can or even should be made.
Tread carefully here, as TKO wisely advised, a little knowledge here can be a dangerous (literally) thing.....and modifying the suspension geometry definitely falls into this catagory.
However, most cars can realize improvements with better shocks, springs and sway bar changes without altering the factory geometry much, if any, at all. You have some pretty cool cars, enjoy.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » RIP Windsor The Wonder Dog » 10/30/2014 6:59 AM |
What is it with everyones dog dying this week? I am not making light of this, I feel your pain and sorrow. Its just that you are the third person this week I know who has lost their dog. It is a strange coincidence. You have our sympathies.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » T-45 » 10/28/2014 9:14 AM |
Nope. All T45 transmissions have the bellhousing built into the transmission, which means it has the 4.6L bolt pattern. I think it was Keisler that used to machine the fronts off these transmissions and set them up for a bell housing, but they are no longer in business.
I have not personally seen anybody adapt one to a 5.0, but that does not mean that there is not some way out there to do it.
ok, here is somebody making something to do it.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » JBA Shorty headers - installation torque » 10/09/2014 8:19 PM |
I'm the same. As has already been pointed out, you cannot get a socket on all the bolts anyway. My approach on all headers, which has worked fine on these headers, is to put a box end wrench on them and basically tighten them until I cannot stand hurting my hands any more. I believe, but have been unable to confirm, that this is the magical "right before it breaks" point that Mustang Steve was refering to. No exhaust leaks for over 15 years with these same headers.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » glove box liner » 9/26/2014 7:15 AM |
It should work exactly as John Ha described.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Cragar SS wheels for my 66 289 coupe » 9/07/2014 5:27 PM |
I don't think anybody has addressed this directly, but I would stay away from the Granada brakes on a 65-66 car. The brakes are not a direct swap, you have to use the Granada spindles. Granada spindles on the 65-66 cars creates a big issue with bump-steer. The problem becomes very pronounced if you lower the car any. Stick with something like Mustang Steve's brake kit.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » 5.0 Swap Header option » 9/05/2014 2:52 PM |
I doubt very much they would fall into the "budget" catagory of headers, but I have been a fan of the JBA shorties for a long time now. They fit well, are made very strong, seal excellent, are nickel plated (at least back when I bought mine), and fit every conceivable combination of 289/302 you can think of (manual trans, cable clutch, power steering, etc.). Just my .02 cents worth.....had a pair on my 66 GT fastback for a LONG time now (since 1996 or there abouts). They run better than the stock manifolds and get better mileage too.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » High idle on 1988 Mustang 5.0 LX » 8/07/2014 6:19 PM |
The MAP sensor will be a small flat thing mounted on the firewall directly behind the upper intake.....if you have a Mass Air sensor on your car, then it should have a vacuum hose connected to it from the intake manifold.....if you do not have Mass Air, then it should be open to the atmosphere to read Barametric pressure.
I am with BobN on this one.....remove both the EGR valve and the IAC valve and clean them THOROUGHLY with a carb or throttle body cleaner.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » 289 Running Hot in FL » 7/01/2014 6:58 AM |
While I normally agree with Mustang Steve on almost everything, I have to highly disagree with the comments that "stock configuration has the needle at about 5/8 travel when at normal operating temperature" and that "3/4 of the gauge is nothing to worry about".
Of all the Mustangs my dad and I have owned, two 66 models and a two 67 models, all have been at normal operating temperatures between the T and the E on the gauge. Yes we live in Dallas, and this is the norm for our cars. IF they have a experience a problem and the needle reaches the 3/4 mark, they are indeed in a situation of much concern.
This has been our experience with four cars with the original stock gauges. It is something that we can depend on with these cars, just like the Ammeter not working at all.
To address the problem that My66stang is having, he might consider checking the timing and confirming that the vacuum advance is working properly. I had an experience one time on the highway where the little c clip that retained the vacuum advance onto the advance plate in the distributer came off while I was driving. There was an immediate loss of power and the engine temps shot up pretty fast. Just saying that timing can cause a lot of the problem as well, especially if the cooling system has previously done its job. Also the fan shroud should be considered a "must have" item.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Fuel pump quits pumping » 6/06/2014 6:46 PM |
Yes Steve, I hate to say it, but your describing the same problem that we had with our cars with the pump mounted in front of the tank. Things were fine until the temps rose above 90 degrees outside, then all bets were off as to when it would stall. Like you said, wait 5-10 minutes and they would start and run fine again for a while.
We changed to tank mounted pumps and drove our cars for well over 100,000 trouble free miles. I know other people have used external pumps with no problems what-so-ever, but my 66 and my dad's 67 went through about four or five different fuel pumps between the two cars before we gave up and went in tank.
BTW.....both of our cars used Ford based EFI systems, my 5.0 used all stock efi components and EECIV, and my dad's heavily modified 351W used a EECIV as well. His car ran fine, but I'm sure he was pushing the limits of the stock EECIV with his engine, I'm not sure you could have done the same with that 427.
Good luck.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » 50th Anniversary Celebration at MustangSteve's - Pictures Posted » 4/18/2014 7:02 AM |
Dang, wish I could have been there.....my 30 years of Mustang experience would have pushed that total to well over 300. Sick kid made it impossible.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Is an EFI swap going to do anything for me? » 4/09/2014 7:12 PM |
Lance: " If the various stock 5.0 EFI computers are going to demand or expect a particular firing order, doesn't this preclude me from using stock EFI computers?"
As it has already been aluded to, the stock Ford EECIV system is a Sequential Multiport Injection System.....so the computer times the firing of the injector with the opening of the intake valve for each and every cylinder individually. Does this mean that it can't be off and work just fine....heck no. Some systems are "batch fire" and would fire all four cylinders on one side of the engine at the same time. Sure it is not as good, but it still worked.
What you need is to make sure that you have computer for an H.O. engine. The H.O.'s all used the 1-3-7 firing order, the "mom and pop" 5.0's like what went into cars like the Crown Vic and Grand Marquis and stuff actually used the old 1-5-4 firing order. All Mustangs used the H.O. engine and cam, so they are the prime source for finding a computer. I think the A9L has been mentioned as one of the top units to find. It should support up to around 400 hp without freaking out.....I'm not sure I can promise much beyond that.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Is an EFI swap going to do anything for me? » 4/08/2014 6:55 AM |
Just remember if and when you do convert to EFI--don't forget to match the distributor gear to the material your cam is made of. The 5.0 roller cams in the EFI cars were steel.....same on the distributor. Drop that distributor into an old block with a flat tappet cam and watch it all destroy itself.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Is an EFI swap going to do anything for me? » 4/07/2014 11:55 AM |
Don't worry about if this is a good deal or not.....it is a Great deal for $100. As Raymond_B said, the manifolds are worth more than that. Most places will hit you up about $100 for the wire harness. Computers are in the same ballpark ($75-125 depending on the place). This is a very good deal.
The throttle body reminds me of an Explorer type, which makes me think that was the source of the manifolds. That is not a bad thing.....same performance potential as the Cobra Intake, because that is basically what it is.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » The ultimate birthday cake. » 4/06/2014 2:41 PM |
extremely cool. That is an excellent job with some great details. I hope everybody enjoys it.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Is an EFI swap going to do anything for me? » 4/06/2014 10:59 AM |
Ok, I have sat out of this one long enough. I too have been a long time convert to EFI. I was actually one of the first. It was around 1990 and Ford had changed over to Mass Air for a couple of years by then on the HO's. They ran great and adjusted for hopping up the engine gracefully (unless you got too much cam).
I drove my 67 Coupe every day and I was sick and tired of getting out of the car smelling like a gas can and having to almost constantly adjust the idle circuit on the Holley. It was a pain in the ***, and I hated the smell. I know I was partly at fault with the smell because I ran an open air cleaner, but carbs always smell anyway.
Then it hit me.....the new 5.0 EFI intake would bolt right onto my old 289. I would just need to feed it the proper fuel pressure and wire it in. In these pre-internet days finding out the information proved to be challenging, and I was met with a lot of skepticism by experts and proclomations of "it will NEVER run" from people who thought they were experts. I eventually preservered and gathered enough information to make the swap. Despite the fact that the manifold I purchased had been sitting for a couple of years and the injectors were hideously clogged, it fired up and managed to actually idle with only about 3 injectors working correctly.
Since then I have logged over 75,000 miles with the factory EFI on my car. The only problems I ever had with it involved a dead relay to ECU and trouble with inline fuel pumps. It did not matter how low I tried to mount the fuel pump in front of the tank, it would have trouble pulling fuel and it would overheat and vapor lock. I tried several different brands of pumps, same result. I eventually installed a fitting into the top of my fuel tank and intalled the late model syle pump inside the tank. I drove this car with fuel injection without any incidents for the next several years, and as I said before, put over 75,000 trouble free and non-gasoline-smel
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » radiator core support rubber seal question. » 3/04/2014 9:01 AM |
Derek....that's just crazy talk.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » 2.5 or 2.25 pipe for 302?? » 3/01/2014 8:21 AM |
I would go with the 2 1/2" system that you already have. Not only is it a good system, but consider that Ford put a 2 1/2" system on the stock 5.0 Mustangs. Yes it was a more restrictive system, but the engine in those cars were considerably less capable than what you will have.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » 289 or 302 dilemma » 2/24/2014 4:39 PM |
Horsepower and torque differences between the two engines are neglible given the same equipment. If you were going to upgrade to a late model roller cam block that would be one thing, but judging both on their potential with a flat tappet cam, you will likely never notice the difference between the two. Save your money for something else and build the 289.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » coilover suspension nice but teeth jarring » 2/12/2014 9:19 AM |
Its pretty much the springs. Those squishy rubber bushings they put in most suspension pieces from the factory really absorb the imperfections in the road, but the stock upper control arms don't have those. This is pretty much the only place you can use heim joints and not adversly reduce ride quality. I vote that this is mostly a result of too much spring rate.....although a stiff enough shock assembly will contribute as well.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » bellhousings » 2/07/2014 5:02 PM |
The short and direct answer to your question is no.
As JVince already mentioned, the T5 bellhousings are set up for a pull style clutch fork.
Because the T5 uses a pull style clutch fork, it requires a longer slot in the side of the bellhousing for movement. This led to the bellhousing itself being about an inch longer than the old toploader bellhousings. If you wish to retain the old Z-style clutch linkage, the old style clutch pivot can be added to the T5 bellhousing. I did this with my old 67 and drove it for about 90,000 miles. The trick is that it has to be spaced toward the engine side by about an inch.
When I moved on to the 66 fastback I did it by switching over to a cable style clutch like the T5 uses. While I made my own modifications to the clutch pedal to make this work, Mustang Steve sells an excellent kit to eliminate a days worth of standing on your head under the dash putting the pedal in and taking it out a dozen times. It is something to consider.....I think the cable operates much smoother and predictably in my car.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Shout out to Ramses....woooooohooooooooooo its here. » 2/06/2014 8:17 AM |
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FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Mercury Pickup Truck » 2/05/2014 10:09 AM |
Ok, I'll admit my ignorance on this topic.....I never knew that Mercury made a pickup truck....ever. Thank you for the information.
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